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Pentium 4 rig - taking it 2themaXX

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First post, by PcBytes

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Just as my title says - it's a Pentium 4 I recently built.

Here are some specs:

ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe - a great choice for a motherboard
Fortron FSP300-60GTP PSU - another great choice
TSSTCORP CDRW/DVD-ROM combo drive
Pentium 4 "Prescott" 3.00GHz w/HT
Radeon HD 3450 512MB AGP
80GB WDC WD800JD-60LSA5 - connected to Promise PDC20378 SATA/RAID controller
2GB DDR400 Dual-Channel RAM - 4x512MB
JNC 8673-4JA case - fancy temperature LCD incorporated! 😎

Pics coming very soon. Planning to make it a Vista SP2 machine since it's quite powerful enough to run it.

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Reply 1 of 22, by Jorpho

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It's nice if it does what you want it to do, I guess?

Why not just go with Win7?

Reply 2 of 22, by PcBytes

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Jorpho wrote:

It's nice if it does what you want it to do, I guess?

Why not just go with Win7?

Thought of that too but it starts to be quite boring. Might go for it though,just for fun and to see if this old system can keep up with new stuff.

If it can't I'll go Vista SP2.

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Reply 3 of 22, by Jorpho

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PcBytes wrote:

Thought of that too but it starts to be quite boring.

"Boring" in that it might actually behave and do what you want with a minimum of fuss?

I really should stop trying to understand these things.

Reply 4 of 22, by PcBytes

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Jorpho wrote:
PcBytes wrote:

Thought of that too but it starts to be quite boring.

"Boring" in that it might actually behave and do what you want with a minimum of fuss?

I really should stop trying to understand these things.

No,it' s just that I've installed 7 over a thousand of times.

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Reply 5 of 22, by alexanrs

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Jorpho wrote:
PcBytes wrote:

Thought of that too but it starts to be quite boring.

"Boring" in that it might actually behave and do what you want with a minimum of fuss?

I really should stop trying to understand these things.

That is the kind of behaiour that I expect from my main computer. I don't mind my retro-PCs acting up a little... I'd say this makes them more interesting =)

This is a very nice P4 system... any reason you decided to go with Prescott rather than Northwood?

Anyway, given how stagnant Windows system requirements have been since Windows Vista, I'd expect this PC to be able to run even a 32-bit version of Windows 10 without trouble. Or you can put Vista RTM and have even more "trouble" xD

Reply 6 of 22, by PcBytes

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alexanrs wrote:
That is the kind of behaiour that I expect from my main computer. I don't mind my retro-PCs acting up a little... I'd say this m […]
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Jorpho wrote:
PcBytes wrote:

Thought of that too but it starts to be quite boring.

"Boring" in that it might actually behave and do what you want with a minimum of fuss?

I really should stop trying to understand these things.

That is the kind of behaiour that I expect from my main computer. I don't mind my retro-PCs acting up a little... I'd say this makes them more interesting =)

This is a very nice P4 system... any reason you decided to go with Prescott rather than Northwood?

Anyway, given how stagnant Windows system requirements have been since Windows Vista, I'd expect this PC to be able to run even a 32-bit version of Windows 10 without trouble. Or you can put Vista RTM and have even more "trouble" xD

Well,being the only Prescott that doesn't instantly jump to 80*C (like my old Celeron D 2.66GHZ) and the fact that it has HT was what made me go for it.

I do have a 2.8GHz Pentium 4 Northwood as well. Funny thing though - this PC,despite having a Prescott inside,it's damn silent. I can't even hear it,save for the 80GB HDD. Wonder if 7 has support for the old PDC20378 controller,though I have some doubts.

Oh,and I forgot mentioning that this system also has a HP card reader attached on USB. Pretty pimped for its era,huh? 🤣

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Reply 7 of 22, by Tertz

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alexanrs wrote:

I'd expect this PC to be able to run even a 32-bit version of Windows 10 without trouble.

sure. 64-bit too. Microsoft did minor changes since XP to really require something modern.

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Reply 8 of 22, by PcBytes

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Tertz wrote:
alexanrs wrote:

I'd expect this PC to be able to run even a 32-bit version of Windows 10 without trouble.

sure. Microsoft did minor changes since XP to really require something modern.

Oh yeah,same requirements since Vista. Microsoft really knows its stuff when it comes about specs. 😀

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Reply 9 of 22, by alexanrs

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PcBytes wrote:

Oh,and I forgot mentioning that this system also has a HP card reader attached on USB. Pretty pimped for its era,huh? 🤣

Is this a black card reader with no branding at all, and came with a black 3.5" to 5.25" bay adapter? I have one of those in my main system! kkkkkkkk

Reply 10 of 22, by Tertz

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PcBytes wrote:

Microsoft really knows its stuff when it comes about specs.

When same OS is sold under different names to keep similar requirements is not hard.

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Reply 11 of 22, by alexanrs

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Technically, the official requirements for Vista (32-bit, RTM) was 512MB of RAM. Back when Windows 7 (1GB minimum) was released, some people tested it on low-end craptastic Vista hardware and found out that Windows 7 ran a bit better there, though.

Reply 12 of 22, by PcBytes

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alexanrs wrote:
PcBytes wrote:

Oh,and I forgot mentioning that this system also has a HP card reader attached on USB. Pretty pimped for its era,huh? 🤣

Is this a black card reader with no branding at all, and came with a black 3.5" to 5.25" bay adapter? I have one of those in my main system! kkkkkkkk

Yes,it's black,but it's one of those small ones (it has no branding on the outside but it's branded HP on the inside) that fits in a floppy bay.

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Technically, the official requirements for Vista (32-bit, RTM) was 512MB of RAM. Back when Windows 7 (1GB minimum) was released, some people tested it on low-end craptastic Vista hardware and found out that Windows 7 ran a bit better there, though.

Considering that Windows 7 was done on Vista engine (fixed up probably) I guess it was normal to work with 512MB minimum.

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Reply 13 of 22, by PhilsComputerLab

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Good to see another P4 built 😀

What cooler are you using?

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Reply 14 of 22, by alexanrs

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PcBytes wrote:

Yes,it's black,but it's one of those small ones (it has no branding on the outside but it's branded HP on the inside) that fits in a floppy bay.

Yup, looks like mine (3 1/2" sized, no branding on the outside). The interesting bit is that mine is pretty new. I was browsing the website of a local computer store early this year for some cheap card reader (I always put one of these on my main PCs) and, for some reason, this popped up for half the price of those chinese card readers, came with a 5 1/4" to 3 1/2" adapter (so I can put it on a regular CD-sized bay, as my case does not have a 3 1/2" one) and a NEC-based USB card to top it off. Doesn't feel nearly as cheap as the "mymax" card reader on my brother's PC.

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Considering that Windows 7 was done on Vista engine (fixed up probably) I guess it was normal to work with 512MB minimum.

AFAIK VIsta was a major code refactor (a good chunk of the OS was rewritten to, among other things, get rid of ancient poorly-documented code dating from the Windows NT early days), and everything afterwards have been refinements. But this shows that MS deflated Vista's requirements. Whoever had a 512MB PC back in the day knew Vista was borderline unuseable with that amount of RAM, but XP was great.

Reply 15 of 22, by PcBytes

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philscomputerlab wrote:

Good to see another P4 built 😀

What cooler are you using?

Stock. That's all I have at the moment,and it holds pretty well 😀

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Reply 16 of 22, by TELVM

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PcBytes wrote:

... ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe ... ... JNC 8673-4JA case ....

You should read this.

Let the air flow!

Reply 17 of 22, by PcBytes

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TELVM wrote:
PcBytes wrote:

... ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe ... ... JNC 8673-4JA case ....

You should read this.

...uhh,I don't hotplug devices. Or if I hotplug my pendrive,it's on the rear USB ports on the motherboard.

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Reply 18 of 22, by filipetolhuizen

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So, that's the reason why front USB ports tend to burn so much...

Reply 19 of 22, by PcBytes

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filipetolhuizen wrote:

So, that's the reason why front USB ports tend to burn so much...

I assume you had USB ports burn stuff?

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