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I recently built this fast 386, aka "The stealth 386" 😀

Looks like a standard, modern computer from the outside, but turn it on and awesome DOS gaming awaits you!

Here is an image of the finished computer in action:

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As always, I documented the process and produced a little video guide 😀 I have also done an intro to set the mood a bit...

Link to the video: Building a fast 386 DOS Retro Gaming PC

Let's take a look at the parts I used:

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- FX-3000 motherboard
- 386DX-40 processor
- 4MB Ram
- Diamond Speedstar 24x
- Goldstar Prime2 IO controller
- Sound Blaster Pro 2
- Roland MPU-401AT
- Roland MT-32 (Old)
- 32 GB Compact Flash card
- StarTech 3.5" CF to IDE adapter
- GOTEK USB Floppy emulator
- IDE DVD-RW
- ATX to IDE adapter
- 420W Gigabyte PSU
- Aywun ATX case

For the power and turbo buttons

- Spare IO shield
- 2 Switches
- 2 cables

Software:

- MS-DOS 6.22
- Ontrack DM
- Wing Commander II
- Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
- Gods

Towards the end of the video you watch me play a few games on this machine 😀

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Reply 1 of 12, by oerk

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Can't believe I'm still the first one to comment!

That machine wouldn't be for me since it couldn't replicate the retro feeling I get from an old machine. But I get why you went that way - replaced all drives and the PSU with more modern, reliable parts and kept the essential stuff.

I like black cases, but would prefer an old one, like the old Escom cases or the ASI T-Bird - haven't come across one in at least a decade, though 🙁

Reply 2 of 12, by BSA Starfire

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That is utterly beutiful Phil!!!!

286 20MHz,1MB RAM,Trident 8900B 1MB, Conner CFA-170A.SB 1350B
386SX 33MHz,ULSI 387,4MB Ram,OAK OTI077 1MB. Seagate ST1144A, MS WSS audio
Amstrad PC 9486i, DX/2 66, 16 MB RAM, Cirrus SVGA,Win 95,SB 16
Cyrix MII 333,128MB,SiS 6326 H0 rev,ESS 1869,Win ME

Reply 3 of 12, by PhilsComputerLab

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oerk wrote:

Can't believe I'm still the first one to comment!

That machine wouldn't be for me since it couldn't replicate the retro feeling I get from an old machine. But I get why you went that way - replaced all drives and the PSU with more modern, reliable parts and kept the essential stuff.

I like black cases, but would prefer an old one, like the old Escom cases or the ASI T-Bird - haven't come across one in at least a decade, though 🙁

Like this one?

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That is utterly beutiful Phil!!!!

Thanks 😀

I'm really happy how it turned out. Apart from Ezy Drive not picking up the 32 GB CF card, everything went smooth. Also nice not to have to load any Sound Blaster drivers. The card just works 😀

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Reply 4 of 12, by BSA Starfire

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Ah, good old ESCOM, along with TIME & TINY the most common PC's here in the UK in the later 90's(after AMSTRAD were gone). I have a completly original ESCOM Pentium 100 system here,Trident graphics, ESS ISA sound, Aztec 4x CD-ROM 😉 Got a TIME Cyrix MII in near stock configuration too, and a TINY desktop case that is pretty far from stock.

286 20MHz,1MB RAM,Trident 8900B 1MB, Conner CFA-170A.SB 1350B
386SX 33MHz,ULSI 387,4MB Ram,OAK OTI077 1MB. Seagate ST1144A, MS WSS audio
Amstrad PC 9486i, DX/2 66, 16 MB RAM, Cirrus SVGA,Win 95,SB 16
Cyrix MII 333,128MB,SiS 6326 H0 rev,ESS 1869,Win ME

Reply 5 of 12, by PhilsComputerLab

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BSA Starfire wrote:

Ah, good old ESCOM, along with TIME & TINY the most common PC's here in the UK in the later 90's(after AMSTRAD were gone). I have a completly original ESCOM Pentium 100 system here,Trident graphics, ESS ISA sound, Aztec 4x CD-ROM 😉 Got a TIME Cyrix MII in near stock configuration too, and a TINY desktop case that is pretty far from stock.

I've only once worked on one. Was a school friend, it was a 486DX2-50, all black, black monitor, was very nice. I helped him install Monkey Island 2 which he purchased, he wasn't very good with computers, but loved his games 😀

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Reply 6 of 12, by BSA Starfire

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They wern't too bad to be honest, mine has a genuine INTEL Neptune motherboard, often the rest of the parts were decidedly "low rent" tho. Last ones were branded Commodore after they bought the company, they did continue manufacture of the Amiga 1200(and maybe 4000?) for a while, then got too big for there boots and purchased the electronics/electrical chain Rumbelows as well. They lasted less than a year after that, all done by summer 1996.

286 20MHz,1MB RAM,Trident 8900B 1MB, Conner CFA-170A.SB 1350B
386SX 33MHz,ULSI 387,4MB Ram,OAK OTI077 1MB. Seagate ST1144A, MS WSS audio
Amstrad PC 9486i, DX/2 66, 16 MB RAM, Cirrus SVGA,Win 95,SB 16
Cyrix MII 333,128MB,SiS 6326 H0 rev,ESS 1869,Win ME

Reply 7 of 12, by oerk

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philscomputerlab wrote:
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Like this one?

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YES! I had the black big tower, black floppy drives and all! Got it for free in the late 90s, moved my socket 7 system into it, then stupidly sold it in 2000 🙁 That was a beauty.

Genuinely sorry for the derail 😀

Reply 8 of 12, by PhilsComputerLab

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Took some benchmarks. This is with tweaked BIOS settings as per screenshots 😀

BIOS settings

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3dbench 1.0

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3dbench 1.0c

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Doom in slowmotion

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Reply 9 of 12, by chinny22

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Haven't watched the video yet but always love the mix of old and new hardware.
I like the idea of the motherboard going "what the hell kind of HDD are you, and slow down" 😉
Only thing I would add, and it's only for a bit of character really is a black 5.25 floppy drive, always wanted to add one to a all back case myself

Reply 10 of 12, by ynari

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very nice, and smart.

I'm tempted to look at the practicality of doing it the other way round - fast modern gaming PC stuck in an ancient case. Now that CPUs and GPUs are a lot more power sipping it should be possible.

Reply 11 of 12, by alexanrs

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I just don't think you should EVER put a modern PC in one of those small old ATX cases where the original spec for ATX PSU dictated that it was meant to blow air on the processor, it would create too much vacuum with a modern PSU exhausting air from there, and the CPU would have cooling issues, besides not having enough space for a decent aftermarket cooler. But a mid-tower? You can probably put the greatest and latest processors and GPUs as long as you are creative with the cooling and do not OC or do SLI.

Reply 12 of 12, by ynari

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Watercooling could probably be an option.. Stick it in a big old PS/2 case or earlier and it might work. It'd require modding to get it to fit, of course.