Make sure you download the specific OpenGLide INI file for Red Baron 3D and the bleeding edge wrapper DLL. (Put them both in the RB3D directory and awaaaay you go!)

Paul, the madness has only begun... 😮

iriches wrote:

There's growing interest in getting EAW to work with Glidos over at SimHQ.

You need to understand a few things. GliDOS is for DOS-based programs (primarily with 3dfx support). What you're probably referring to is Paul's version of the OpenGlide "wrapper" for 3dfx emulation (Like Snover said, you probably want the RedBaron 3d files from his webpage).

Is the ATI card the only video card having the Fog problem?

Sorry for the misunderstanding....I am indeed referring to the OpenGlide "wrapper" that has been so successful for Red Baron.

The success of that has kindled a lot of interest in this project, to say the least....

Concerning EAW, I believe that some S3 Savage cards as well as ATI cards have problems rendering the fog using the D3D renderer in EAW.

Using the OpenGlide wrapper allows the fog to be rendered correctly, but the frame rate is poor.

My question (re-phrased) then, is if there is any advice as to .ini file settings that may help in this instance.

I (now) fully understand getting Windows Glide programs to run under D3D is not the raison d'etre of this project.

However, if there is any easy tweak that can be made to enable better functionality in EAW, you would have a lot of happy people!

If this is either not possible, or desirable, that is well understood.

Ian

Well, plans are being drawn up between Paul, Fabio (the original creator of OpenGLide), and several other members here at VOGONS to get the wheels rolling on it again. Paul is planning on committing everything he's done to OpenGLide to the OpenGLide CVS and then things should start working outwards from there. More about that here.

Yes, as Snover says we have Fabio back on board. All things are possible. He says specifically that he has ideas for speeding things up. If frame rate is the main problems, you might be in luck.

Excellent news.

I'm afraid I can offer nothing to this project other than my encouragement, but you can have that by the bucketload....

Ian

Guys, this is very exciting news!!

Not just for RB (yeah, I'm biased... but we all have our favs) but for all of the great old glide games out there...

If nothing else, you have my enthusiastic moral support....

Who knows what the future holds? Maybe even a playable version of Archimedean Dynasty? (Pretty nasty-looking last time I saw...)

The main problem with AD is it wont start in W2K and XP because of VESA problems. One hope: I've found that the new VESA support in Glidos works well enough to get the initial splash screen. But that initial screen requires a button to pressed using the mouse, and Glidos's mouse support doesn't kick in during the VESA stage. Looks hopeful, but a lot of work (which I might be able to get back to with the RB pressure off).

*Wonders idly how GliDOS would like working with Ken Silverman's VESA hack*
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Stiletto wrote:

*Wonders idly how GliDOS would like working with Ken Silverman's VESA hack*

Hey that's clever. I wonder how he got in there to see what the problem was. Whether it works with Glidos? It is really whether the individual games that glidos supports will like it. TR1: I think not. I can get my VESA stuff to tell TR that certain modes don't exist, and TR just goes ahead and uses them anyway.

Might help AD though. Well spotted

Hmmm. Just realised that my VESA stuff- at the moment - tells the prgram that linear frame buffer modes aren't supported, so my stuff will work only in cases where his should. Definitely worth a try.

...so my stuff will work only in cases where his should.

Uh..? Is that a valid English sentence? I think not. Please clarify.

Looks like an English sentence to me, but difficult to see what I'm driving at, I admit.

Ken's approach has the disadvantage of relying on games having a fall back if linear frame buffer support isn't available. What I'm saying is that the linear frame buffer isn't supported by my simple VESA emulation, so if my scheme works for a particular game, then so should his.

The advantage with his approach is that you still get the full emulation provided by your video card (except fot the linear frame buffer). His way may be slow, but mine will always be slower. Also with his way, things like mouse support may still work without further emulation work.

If I forget to try this out on Archimedian Dynasty, can someone remind me?

Snover wrote:

Uh..? Is that a valid English sentence? I think not.

Actually, I think it is. It's just that he kind of "OD'd" on pronouns.

I see. That makes sense. Thanks for answering, Paul!

Ken's NOLFB does almost solve the problems with Archimedian Dynasty.

160 bytes and it solves this major VESA problem. Elegance!

Still not quite there though: unlike with my VESA stuff, the mouse pointer appears; but it is stuck in a little rectangle top left of the screen, so still I can't press the button to get to the next screen.

Try this: showthread.php?threadid=139

Hell, if you can improve it, that would be even better.