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Does WINFLP support dual cpus?

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First post, by computergeek92

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Curiosity strikes... would Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs use both cpus just like XP Pro? What about the idea of using it on a dual Pentium II 450 server system? Was it more stable of an OS than Windows 2000?

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Reply 1 of 24, by emosun

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It's just a stripped down version of xp. It'll support multiple cpu's still. Heck even 98 supports more than one cpu.

Considering it was released long after windows 2000 (2006 I believe) it should be plenty stable. provided your hardware is stable. Dual slot 1 boards are kinda flakey with stability when you push em real hard.

Reply 2 of 24, by ramiro77

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I use wflp in my Thinkpad 600x (PIII 450 mhz, 448mb ram). It works like a charm. Is incredibly fast with no additional tweaks in comparision with std xp SP3. No stability issues. I use that laptop everyday in college to read pdf and use Office pack.
It also has Directx, but you have to install IE and Windows Media Player. Otherwise you will not have Directx.

Reply 3 of 24, by Snayperskaya

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FLP is a pretty nifty OS. Since it's based on the Pro SKU, I think you'll have no troubles with it.

Reply 4 of 24, by computergeek92

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emosun wrote:

It's just a stripped down version of xp. It'll support multiple cpu's still. Heck even 98 supports more than one cpu.

Considering it was released long after windows 2000 (2006 I believe) it should be plenty stable. provided your hardware is stable. Dual slot 1 boards are kinda flakey with stability when you push em real hard.

Windows 98 supports more than once cpu but won't use it at all.

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Reply 5 of 24, by computergeek92

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Snayperskaya wrote:

FLP is a pretty nifty OS. Since it's based on the Pro SKU, I think you'll have no troubles with it.

Whats Pro SKU? Sorry, acronyms confuse me.

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Reply 6 of 24, by computergeek92

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Will WINFLP use all xp hardware drivers with no trouble even though it's a stripped OS? Also how many of you have had the pleasure of testing it on the oldest systems? I heard it "runs like a dream" on a 500mhz cpu with 128mb ram. Can it run good even on a Pentium 1? What's the cut off for good performance? Also would doing a "minimal install" from the 4 install options available make it run faster than the "complete install" And would WINFLP be a good replacement as a server OS? Imagine that dual Pentium II beast...

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Reply 7 of 24, by ramiro77

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No issues here with drivers of any kind. I didn't notice any performance differences between minimal and full install. But like I said before don't forget to install IE and media player or you won't have DirectX.

Reply 8 of 24, by emosun

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computergeek92 wrote:

Will WINFLP use all xp hardware drivers with no trouble even though it's a stripped OS? Also how many of you have had the pleasure of testing it on the oldest systems? I heard it "runs like a dream" on a 500mhz cpu with 128mb ram. Can it run good even on a Pentium 1? What's the cut off for good performance? Also would doing a "minimal install" from the 4 install options available make it run faster than the "complete install" And would WINFLP be a good replacement as a server OS? Imagine that dual Pentium II beast...

Not on a pentium 1. Just mearly moving the mouse around in xp on a pentium 1 causes the cpu usage to go nuts.

It retains the same drivers. WFFLP is just xp stripped down to bare basics. It literally just boots up with the xp logo and everything. Depending on the servers specs , use a more modern server os to run a server. This is just for old pc's to have some xp functionality.

Reply 9 of 24, by computergeek92

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emosun wrote:
computergeek92 wrote:

Will WINFLP use all xp hardware drivers with no trouble even though it's a stripped OS? Also how many of you have had the pleasure of testing it on the oldest systems? I heard it "runs like a dream" on a 500mhz cpu with 128mb ram. Can it run good even on a Pentium 1? What's the cut off for good performance? Also would doing a "minimal install" from the 4 install options available make it run faster than the "complete install" And would WINFLP be a good replacement as a server OS? Imagine that dual Pentium II beast...

Not on a pentium 1. Just mearly moving the mouse around in xp on a pentium 1 causes the cpu usage to go nuts.

It retains the same drivers. WFFLP is just xp stripped down to bare basics. It literally just boots up with the xp logo and everything. Depending on the servers specs , use a more modern server os to run a server. This is just for old pc's to have some xp functionality.

Well it's good to know WINFLP is an XP that actually performs to the original XP system requirements more accurately with no bloat. So no Pentium 1 MMX 233MHz... Will a low end Pentium II be enough? Models 233-333MHz? Is 128mb the minimum recommended ram?

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Reply 10 of 24, by computergeek92

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No issues here with drivers of any kind. I didn't notice any performance differences between minimal and full install. But like I said before don't forget to install IE and media player or you won't have DirectX.

Do I have to install minimum versions being IE ver 6 and WMP ver 8? Those were the versions first shipped with the original release of Windows XP. Can I make do with older versions of that due to i'm mostly playing pre-XP games anyhow?

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Reply 11 of 24, by emosun

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computergeek92 wrote:

So no Pentium 1 MMX 233MHz... Will a low end Pentium II be enough? Models 233-333MHz? Is 128mb the minimum recommended ram?

Well a pentium 233 will run it , just run like crap. Least that's what I was using when I tested it.

You should essentially use as much ram as possible , even though it's low on ram usage. If an old pc has to start using the page file then you'll get massive slowdowns thanks to old drives and buses being so slow.

It'll run on 64mb of ram but just stuff the pc full of as much ram as it can take and turn off the page file.

Reply 12 of 24, by ibm5155

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Didn't knew about WINFLP, could it work fine on a K6-III+ 400, voodoo 3 3000 agp, 128mb ram and an isa sound card? (The isa sound card drivers Works fine on xp).

For now, I'm using Windows xp sp3 on that machina, but it's a bit overkill,I belive that xp version is better for this system (I use it to transfer data to the win 98 partition and also to go to the internet where I require some more advanced browser.

Reply 13 of 24, by emosun

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ibm5155 wrote:

Didn't knew about WINFLP, could it work fine on a K6-III+ 400, voodoo 3 3000 agp, 128mb ram and an isa sound card? (The isa sound card drivers Works fine on xp).

For now, I'm using Windows xp sp3 on that machina, but it's a bit overkill,I belive that xp version is better for this system (I use it to transfer data to the win 98 partition and also to go to the internet where I require some more advanced browser.

Again , wfflp is just xp stripped down. So yea it should work fine.

Reply 14 of 24, by RogueTrip2012

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So whats better if you have fast hardware like a Athlon 64 2GB ram for games?
XP Pro SP3 > WinFLP > MicroXP?

Does not having Application Compatibility Mode selectable hurt win 98 games? Is compabitility mode removed in WinFLP and MicroXP?

When I get some free time I'm setting up a Pentium 4 3.2 and/or a Athlon 64 3400+ on XP and figuring what might be the best to use.

> W98SE . P3 1.4S . 512MB . Q.FX3K . SB Live! . 64GB SSD
>Win XP . AMD 960T . 8GB . Q.K2200. SB X-Fi . 512GB SSD . 2TB HDD
> Win XI . i7 12700k . 96GB . RTX4070TI . 512GB NVME

Reply 15 of 24, by ramiro77

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computergeek92 wrote:
ramiro77 wrote:

No issues here with drivers of any kind. I didn't notice any performance differences between minimal and full install. But like I said before don't forget to install IE and media player or you won't have DirectX.

Do I have to install minimum versions being IE ver 6 and WMP ver 8? Those were the versions first shipped with the original release of Windows XP. Can I make do with older versions of that due to i'm mostly playing pre-XP games anyhow?

What do you mean with "minimum" versions? Do you mean the versions included in wflp? If so, yes. But now I'm wondering if IE was necessary. I'm sure about wmp beeing necessary to have DirecX working, I just can't remember if IE is necessary too. If you don't install wmp, the system will report DirectX as installed but when you try to run any game (or benchmark app like 3dmark01), it will tell you that you don't have DirectX.

I have to install wflp in two machines tomorrow. I'll check that if I have enough time.

Reply 16 of 24, by emosun

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RogueTrip2012 wrote:

So whats better if you have fast hardware like a Athlon 64 2GB ram for games?
XP Pro SP3 > WinFLP > MicroXP?

With those specs it really wouldn't matter as those specs wouldn't be hindered by xp.

Reply 17 of 24, by Jorpho

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computergeek92 wrote:
Snayperskaya wrote:

FLP is a pretty nifty OS. Since it's based on the Pro SKU, I think you'll have no troubles with it.

Whats Pro SKU? Sorry, acronyms confuse me.

SKU = Stock Keeping Unit. I believe Mr. Snayperskaya is referring to FLP being based initially on Windows XP Pro.

It seems to me that with WinFLP being somewhat obscure, sooner or later you're going to run into an equally-obscure compatibility problem that no one can clearly explain and/or quickly fix. (It is frequently mentioned that it is missing null.sys, for instance; who can say what else might have been quietly removed that some game or driver might eventually go looking for?)

A little Googling suggests that installing media player may not be necessary to get DirectX working if you have an XP install CD:
http://stub2.blogspot.ca/2008/10/getting-dire … roperly-on.html

Reply 18 of 24, by computergeek92

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ramiro77 wrote:
computergeek92 wrote:
ramiro77 wrote:

No issues here with drivers of any kind. I didn't notice any performance differences between minimal and full install. But like I said before don't forget to install IE and media player or you won't have DirectX.

Do I have to install minimum versions being IE ver 6 and WMP ver 8? Those were the versions first shipped with the original release of Windows XP. Can I make do with older versions of that due to i'm mostly playing pre-XP games anyhow?

What do you mean with "minimum" versions? Do you mean the versions included in wflp? If so, yes. But now I'm wondering if IE was necessary. I'm sure about wmp beeing necessary to have DirecX working, I just can't remember if IE is necessary too. If you don't install wmp, the system will report DirectX as installed but when you try to run any game (or benchmark app like 3dmark01), it will tell you that you don't have DirectX.

I have to install wflp in two machines tomorrow. I'll check that if I have enough time.

I meant installing Windows 95/98 versions of directx and wmp on winflip instead of the xp-era versions.

The win9x versions had lower system requirements. Using them on winflp could improve system performance. I plan on using winflp with mainly 9x programs anyhow.

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Reply 19 of 24, by computergeek92

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Jorpho wrote:

It seems to me that with WinFLP being somewhat obscure, sooner or later you're going to run into an equally-obscure compatibility problem that no one can clearly explain and/or quickly fix. (It is frequently mentioned that it is missing null.sys, for instance; who can say what else might have been quietly removed that some game or driver might eventually go looking for?)

That's the reason I stopped using TinyXP/MicroXP on old systems. Empire Earth, for example would not run because of a missing .dll file. I even tried going online to download the missing .dll to put in the correct system folder. After I did that, the game would still not run. I don't know why...

Certain web browsers, including Opera Browser, would not work either due to a missing .dll.

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