Hmm. I was going to try Doom 3 on my son's PC--Win10, i5-4570s, Geforce GTX 750Ti, but could not get it to run. Getting Access Denied when clicking "Play". I tried giving the .exe Admin privileges, but then nothing happens when I try to launch the game (no access denied message, it acts as if I never tried to launch). I tried different compatibility modes (XP SP3, Win7, Win8), nothing worked. But I see a couple of Win10 scores in the OP, so I know it should work. Any ideas?

Skyscraper wrote:

I do not really understand it either, does your Doom 3 score keep scaling over 4.6 GHz?

Yes it does scale.
My result @4,62GHz is more/less in line, with what your Pentium D 950 @ 4,533GHz + 7900 GTX scored [143FPS vs. 142,2FPS].

Without GPU OC (or with 7800 GTX 512MB), I scored 0,3FPS less (142,7FPS).

I also tested SuperPI 1M @ 4,62GHz :

agent_x007 wrote:

Yes it does scale. My result @4,62GHz is more/less in line, with what your Pentium D 950 @ 4,533GHz + 7900 GTX scored [142,2FPS] […]
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Skyscraper wrote:

I do not really understand it either, does your Doom 3 score keep scaling over 4.6 GHz?

Yes it does scale.
My result @4,62GHz is more/less in line, with what your Pentium D 950 @ 4,533GHz + 7900 GTX scored [142,2FPS].

I also tested SuperPI 1M @ 4,62GHz :

It must be some wierd P35 + 4GB DDR3 vs X48 + 2GB DDR2 thing. Doom 3 is very sensitive to chipset latencys and memory sub timings as seen when running with PAT active with Asus P4C800 i875P motherboards. It could also be some wierd on the brink of stability thing as I had lots of other performance and inconsistency issues with the Pentium D 965EE when overclocking.

I will investigate this further but not today as I'm going to rebuild my capture system.

I checked latency with newest AIDA64 :
@4,62GHz :

59.1ns.

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I checked latency with newest AIDA64 :
@4,62GHz :

cachemem 4,62GHz (266 strap).png

59.1ns.

I will see if I can rebuild the Pentium D 965EE system the upcoming week, the motherboard has a P4 631 on it right now I think.

Im pretty sure the memory latency wasn't lower than that though.

@4,86GHz latency is 56ns 😉

So it does scale down (with higher clock speed).

I found this screenshot with a bit slower memory timings but a totally different CPU and a few MHz higher memory speed compared to my Doom 3 run with the 965 EE. I did not save many screenshots from the benching session with the P4 965 EE as it was a test run to see what it could do just when I had bought the CPU and because of the performance inconsistencies I saw when clocking higher.

Added few extra MHz 😀

GPU scaling got better (+2FPS with GPU OC).

Latency got lower :

And SuperPi got under 25,5sec :

Of course it is NOT stable for heavy benching 🙁

EDIT : @up That's Everest Ultimate 😒
Results are probably not be comperable with my results from AIDA64...

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Added few extra MHz 😀
GPU scaling got better (+2FPS with GPU OC).

Latency got lower :
And SuperPi got under 25,5sec :

SuperPI 1M 5,07GHz mini.png

Of course it is NOT stable for heavy benching 🙁

EDIT : @up That's Everest Ultimate 😒
Results are probably not be comperable with my results from AIDA64...

Nice! Now you at least top the list. 😀

I know Everest Ultimate and AIDA64 isnt the same thing but it was all I could find, AIDA and Everest do use the same engine though.

Post the SuperPi score in the SuperPi thread, you are the second one under 26s with a Netburst CPU. Your score probably beats mine with the P4 631 but its hard to know for sure as I think I used a standard SuperPi that only shows seconds.

EDIT

I found my screenshot, the memory speed is really sucky though so 24s should be within reach.
I have no idea why I diddnt run 1T timing as it should be possible at such a low memory speed.

Like the run with the 965 EE it was just a quick test to see what the CPU could do though. The CPU turned out to be really bad for a Cedar Mill but it's the only one I own.

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Maybe RAM didn't liked 1T timing ?
837MHz @ CL4 is high performance RAM, I think only Micron D9's can go tighter than CL4 with this speeds.

PS. My effective RAM speed with best score is 1669MHz (834,5MHz x 2), not 1624MHz 😀
Other way to look at it is this :
My RAM speed (effective) = My FSB rated speed.

I probably did not use the Kingston memory shown in the picture I posted on the last page in this thread, it can do 1200 MHz 4-5-4 @2.4V on a good day! 😀 Thats with 2T timing though.

I think it's Micron chips but I have not removed the heat spreaders to check.

Useful site : LINK
My "kinda best" score on C2D E8400 (limited by MB tho) with Super PI 1M :
EDIT :
@down Same as mine CellShocks from screen above 😀
Both are really Bada** RAM sticks.

The modules on the picture are these. 😀

PC2-9600 HyperX
KHX9600D2K2/2G 9905316-069.A00LF
5.0-5-5-15 @ 2.3 ~ 2.35V Micron D9GKX (B6-25E)

AMD Athlon XP 2500 @ 2.2 -- ABIT NF7-S2G, 1gb DDR400 -- BFG FX 5900 (93.71) -- Windows XP SP3 -- Sound Blaster Live!

Forgot fx 5900 @ 450/900 from 400/850. I shutoff all processes I could before running test

100.2 FPS, Vetz, Pentium 4EE 3.2ghz S478, ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe, 2x512MB DDR400 CL2,2,2,5, 6800Ultra AGP 92.91, X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty, XP SP3

Thought all the Extreme CPU's were multiplier unlocked, I was wrong.. So no simulated 3.4ghz result from me. I'll post one on FSB OC later.

vetz wrote:

100.2 FPS, Vetz, Pentium 4EE 3.2ghz S478, ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe, 2x512MB DDR400 CL2,2,2,5, 6800Ultra AGP 92.91, X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty, XP SP3

Thought all the Extreme CPU's were multiplier unlocked, I was wrong.. So no simulated 3.4ghz result from me. I'll post one on FSB OC later.

That result is right on the mark! 😀

clueless1 wrote:

Getting Access Denied when clicking "Play".

set privileges recurrently on the entire folder maybe?

clueless1 wrote:

I tried giving the .exe Admin privileges

could You explain, please?

clueless1 wrote:

I tried different compatibility modes (XP SP3, Win7, Win8), nothing worked

not sure You even need those, for windows 8.1 here i did not iirc;

It's time I start adding some results again! 😀

I had planned to rebench my Pentium D 965 EE this weekend but as I won an Abit Fatal1ty AA8XE i925XE motherboard + a Prescott 560 CPU on a Swedish auction site I had to take this bundle out for a spin. I posted some pictures of the bundle in the bought stuff thread so I won't repost them here.

I thought I could post a good picture showing the DDR2 memory I'm using when I need DDR2 memory capable of 1200+ MHz with rather tight timings. This DDR2 kit is specified to run at 2.35V but I never push them with such a high voltage other than for benching! 😀

I also thought it could be a good idea to post some performance numbers showing what does matter and what dosn't matter when it comes to getting good video performance in Windows XP.

I manually had to set the FSB to 201 MHz as the Abit Fatal1ty AA8XE defaults to 204 MHz FSB which is unfair and it's setting for 200 MHz is in reality 199 MHz, 201 MHz is as fair as it gets.

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BIOS Defaults.
Non optimizaed OS
Geforce 6800GT (350MHz GPU 1000MHz memory)
Memory at 533 MHz 4-4-4-12

Doom3: 85.0

3dmark 2001: 20490

3dmark 2003: 11706
CPU: 850

3dmark 2006: 2453
SM2.0: 1015
HDR/SM3.0: 911
CPU: 1095

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Same as above but with a Geforce 6800 Ultra (400/1100)

Doom3: 90.1

3dmark 2001: 21281

3dmark 2003: 12876
CPU: 851

3dmark 2006: 2744
SM2.0: 1158
HDR/SM3.0: 1038
CPU: 1097

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Same as above with the NB strap at the tighest setting and the memory at 800 Mhz 4-4-4-12

Doom3: 95.5 FPS

3dmark 2001: 22416

3dmark 2003: 13021 (Very bottlenecked by the GPU)
CPU: 886

3dmark 2006: 2747 (Totally bottlenecked by the GPU)
SM2.0: 1159
HDR/SM3.0: 1035
CPU: 1109

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Same as above with less services running and no pagefile (Very little gain if any)

Doom3: 95.7 FPS

3dmark 2001: 22646

3dmark 2003: 13022
CPU: 888

3dmark 2006: 2750
SM2.0: 1157
HDR/SM3.0: 1038
CPU: 1112

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This is how slim XP can be, there are still USB, sound and everything else needed for a working offline XP gaming system. There isn't any real gain compared to a fully bloated XP though.

Here is the screenshot showing the full spec for the period correct list entry with the Prescott 560. I will probably replace this with a score with a Prescott 570 (if I can find the CPU).

Even a 700 MHz overclock did not improve the score much as I had to loosen the NB strap which also made the 1:2 memory divider unavailable.

The performance is the same as vetz S478 P4 EE 3.2 GHz although my system is running 1100 MHz faster, the Asus P4C800 i875P really is fast!. 😀

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clueless1 wrote:

Getting Access Denied when clicking "Play".

set privileges recurrently on the entire folder maybe?

clueless1 wrote:

I tried giving the .exe Admin privileges

could You explain, please?

Right-click the Doom3 executable, select Properties, Compatibility, and put a check in the "Run as Administrator" box.