Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby stamasd » 2016-8-20 @ 13:50

Marmes wrote:Hi!
Thanks keropi!
I tested this with some games, oh man, anyone with a MT32 or other module should definetly have this.
Cheers!


Agree. Love mine (got one from the first batch).
I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby Marmes » 2016-8-22 @ 02:41

For the first time i hear gateway the way it suposed to be. Really happy here!
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby Marmes » 2016-8-30 @ 11:12

A new batch is available for those who might want.
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby gdjacobs » 2016-8-30 @ 16:27

Grad school here, so no money. :(
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby GuyTechie » 2016-8-30 @ 17:23

I'm curious - I'm relatively new to this, so what is something like this for? I'm assuming this is to replace the older (discontinued) Roland MPU401 interface card? Would I need it if I already have a USB-to-MIDI cable as well as sound card with a joystick/midi port?

I just recently received my Roland SC-55 mkII and using both a USB-to-MIDI cable (I have a cheapo one and a Roland One-UM) - works graet in modern Win10 (need a MIDI mapper app though), as well as the Joystick Port from a Yamaha Audacian 32 Plus sound card. Both methods work well so far. I'm guessing both methods are using the MPU401 interface already.
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby gdjacobs » 2016-8-30 @ 18:09

Some games written around 1990 require a fully compatible MPU-401 interface which can operate in "intelligent" or "normal" mode to provide MT-32 or CM-32L sound. SoftMPU can also provide this capability, but it won't run with games incompatible with EMM386.

The first link contains a list of some games which require this type of support. The second link contains some additional information about MPU-401 interfaces.

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http://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.ca/2010 ... mt-32.html
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby GuyTechie » 2016-8-30 @ 18:46

gdjacobs wrote:Some games written around 1990 require a fully compatible MPU-401 interface which can operate in "intelligent" or "normal" mode to provide MT-32 or CM-32L sound. SoftMPU can also provide this capability, but it won't run with games incompatible with EMM386.

The first link contains a list of some games which require this type of support. The second link contains some additional information about MPU-401 interfaces.

viewtopic.php?t=31805
http://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.ca/2010 ... mt-32.html


Thanks for the info!
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby PhilsComputerLab » 2016-8-31 @ 02:21

Having a dedicted MPU card also gets around the hanging note bug. So you can use ANY Sound Blaster 16 and have no issues.
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby gdjacobs » 2016-8-31 @ 02:31

True, although the same applies for any card featuring an MPU-401 UART installed in addition to a SB16.
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby PhilsComputerLab » 2016-8-31 @ 02:35

gdjacobs wrote:True, although the same applies for any card featuring an MPU-401 UART installed in addition to a SB16.


Yes but than you got to muck around with resources and all of that. And it's still not intelligent mode.
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby gdjacobs » 2016-8-31 @ 03:12

Intelligent mode was my main point. That's what makes the difference between a card like this and an MPU-401 UART on your sound card, although SoftMPU provides intelligent mode features via TSR. Unbugged MPU-401 equipped sound cards are comparatively common.
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby PhilsComputerLab » 2016-8-31 @ 03:48

SoftMPU takes up CPU time, this is noticeable on a 386 for example, some games take longer to start-up.
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby gdjacobs » 2016-8-31 @ 03:59

Yes, plus it necessitates using EMM386 which is both memory inefficient and incompatible with some software.
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby ynari » 2016-8-31 @ 09:27

It should also get around the highly irritating Tie Fighter bug, where it can frequently pause for a second during gameplay. Can't remember if this is just a digital audio and MIDI on a soundblaster at the same time bug, or if a joystick needs to be plugged in too. I've only managed to get it to work by using two Soundblasters, one dedicated to MIDI..

With one of these cards it'd require a lot less faffing around with the plug and play utilities to disable bits of the second sound card.
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby PhilsComputerLab » 2016-9-14 @ 14:56

Got mine yesterday :blush:

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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby loktar » 2016-9-14 @ 15:08

Phil just posted in a group I'm a part of on Facebook, what do I need to do to get one of these?! Not even sure how I missed this thread. As an owner of an MT32 I feel like I *need* one of these haha. Checked out the Amibay thread and 0 are available, do you have any left keropi?

Pretty kick ass project! I have an unassembled clone board.. but I suck at assembling, pretty excited at the thought of getting a fully assembled board I can use.
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby keropi » 2016-9-14 @ 17:59

Fully assembled boards are sold by Marmes at over at AmiBay and eBay (AmiBay is cheaper since there are no fees) , I believe there are 5 left now - more to come
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby loktar » 2016-9-14 @ 17:59

keropi wrote:Fully assembled boards are sold by Marmes at over at AmiBay and eBay (AmiBay is cheaper since there are no fees) , I believe there are 5 left now - more to come


Thanks for the heads up!
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby Marmes » 2016-9-14 @ 18:21

Last ones I'm afraid, grab yours while you can :)
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Re: Music Quest MPU clone cards, anyone interested in them?

Postby loktar » 2016-9-14 @ 19:48

Marmes wrote:Last ones I'm afraid, grab yours while you can :)


Yeah I wasn't going to sit on this, this is an amazing service being provided considering how much the originals go for now. I was beginning to think I would never have an MPU card.
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