Just don't use a bolo tie and all is good.

What about a bowtie?

I don't like neckties and try to wear a bowtie whenever possible.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:

But would an ascot make me stick out in the crowd? I'm not sure if I want to look like Eagle from Street Fighter!

My first thought was Fred from Scooby Doo, actually.

A nice long sleeve batik and you should be fine 😉

Always better overdressed than underdressed!

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gdjacobs wrote:

Just don't use a bolo tie and all is good.

Never like that thing myself, though the word 'bolo' reminds of this:

Could anyone fill the dots? 😉

keenmaster486 wrote:

What about a bowtie?

I don't like neckties and try to wear a bowtie whenever possible.

I don't like neckties either; those things are choking hazard, and I don't like them too much. The university department's anniversary is an event where I can avoid wearing tie; yes, the awards for my late parents are official, but the entire tone of the event is more like frat reunion for retired lecturers. Wedding, I'm afraid, is more formal.

As for bowtie, I cannot tie the damn thing! 🤣 If anything, it should be my younger brother who wears bow tie, because he is a university professor. But he care even less about fashion that I do.

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Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:

But would an ascot make me stick out in the crowd? I'm not sure if I want to look like Eagle from Street Fighter!

My first thought was Fred from Scooby Doo, actually.

🤣

Davis wrote:

A nice long sleeve batik and you should be fine 😉

Always better overdressed than underdressed!

I haven't had long sleeve batik for, like, perhaps a decade or so. My batik shirts are all short sleeve, where I wear them rather casually.

gdjacobs wrote:

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What's so special about those wolves, really?

Anyway, just out of curiosity, and regardless of anything: is ascot tie less formal than long tie, or the other way around?

Those wolves are awesome because they're so cheesy.

I would say an Ascot is less conservative but equally formal.

It all depends. When i got married i didn't wear a tie myself. I hate those things, they remind me to much as my time as waiter. Last year i went to a high society wedding, i didn't wear a tie then either.
But i guess if it's you're brother, and he wears one, then i can imagine that you want to wear one to.

A Mandarin collar isn't worn with a necktie, but it's equally formal. Wear it in a solid color with a suit and you're good!

My wedding is coming up in July and I'll ask my guests to not wear ties! Do away with the shackles!!!

I eventually picked ascot over long tie this morning, and it wasn't a bad decision. Like, it's less constricting than long tie, making it more comfortable. And the look isn't bad either. In fact, it blends nicely with my usual stuff: navy blue blazer, oxford shirt, and boater shoes. Totally. I'm pretty much conservative about fashion, and very rarely change my style. But this time, I think I'm making a permanent move to ascot tie, for sure.

By the way, that was me on the picture below, at home, right before going to the wedding. Pardon the large tummy though, I've been gaining extra weight since my avatar pic taken about eight years ago.

An ex-girlfriend of mine remarked through WA that she likes it. The ascot doesn't ruin my usual 'timeless classic' look despite being less formal. We share the same taste, by the way, so I still ask her for fashion advice sometimes.

gdjacobs wrote:

Those wolves are awesome because they're so cheesy.

I would say an Ascot is less conservative but equally formal.

I tend to be quite conservative about fashion, but it turned out ascot tie is fine.

seob wrote:

It all depends. When i got married i didn't wear a tie myself. I hate those things, they remind me to much as my time as waiter. Last year i went to a high society wedding, i didn't wear a tie then either.
But i guess if it's you're brother, and he wears one, then i can imagine that you want to wear one to.

Oh, my brother cares less about fashion than I do; he wore suit jacket and a trucker's hat during the wedding! 🤣 Luckily he has very understanding wife.

gdjacobs wrote:

A Mandarin collar isn't worn with a necktie, but it's equally formal. Wear it in a solid color with a suit and you're good!

Mandarin collar is very popular here among us Muslims in Indonesia. It's called baju koko, and I would have tried it years ago if not for my tendency to stay looking the same over and over again. I didn't even remember the last time I bought a pair shoes which is not boater, or a jacket which is not navy! 🤣

Dominus wrote:

My wedding is coming up in July and I'll ask my guests to not wear ties! Do away with the shackles!!!

Ah, the no-tie movement, no?