Are you sure 3DMark99 is capable of running on a Voodoo2? (EDIT: This thread shows it, but that's SLI.)

Perhaps it would be better to try some other benchmark first. Offhand, rRootage would be worth a try. To use it on your Voodoo2, copy 3dfxvgl.dll (which should be in your Windows\System32 directory) to the game's folder and rename it to opengl32.dll.

Try the latest official 3dfx voodoo 2 drivers, and that the VGA passthrough cable is connected.

synrgy87 wrote:

and that the VGA passthrough cable is connected.

The presence or absence of the passthrough cable should make no difference to Device Manager or any dialog box in 3DMark.

3D Mark 99 max does work with single voodoo 2, (and SLI of course)

The presence or absence of the passthrough cable should make no difference to Device Manager or any dialog box in 3DMark.

Yes you are correct.

Is there a possible resource conflict, maybe with a sound card, could be stopping the Voodoo card initialising properly.

edit: The card itself could be at fault

3dmark 99 runs fine on a v2 (and would be much quicker than the riva 128). it even runs fine on a voodoo1.

Take the card out and inspect every chip and see if none of the tiny legs on the chips touch or even came loose. There are a LOT of them and they get damaged very easily often resulting in the hardware getting detected but not working, a black screen or artifacts depending on which chip is the problem.

I fixed a couple of them by straightening a bend leg (or two..) with a small needle and some patience. Cards worked fine after that.

If that isn't the problem and there is no other damage the card is probably dead.

synrgy87 wrote:

3D Mark 99 max does work with single voodoo 2, (and SLI of course) […]
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3D Mark 99 max does work with single voodoo 2, (and SLI of course)

The presence or absence of the passthrough cable should make no difference to Device Manager or any dialog box in 3DMark.

Yes you are correct.

Is there a possible resource conflict, maybe with a sound card, could be stopping the Voodoo card initialising properly.

edit: The card itself could be at fault

Conflicts do not occur often, as the voodoo doesn't require an irq adress. Changing slots can sometimes help, don't know why, and always worth a try.

meljor wrote:

synrgy87 wrote:

3D Mark 99 max does work with single voodoo 2, (and SLI of course) […]
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3D Mark 99 max does work with single voodoo 2, (and SLI of course)

The presence or absence of the passthrough cable should make no difference to Device Manager or any dialog box in 3DMark.

Yes you are correct.

Is there a possible resource conflict, maybe with a sound card, could be stopping the Voodoo card initialising properly.

edit: The card itself could be at fault

PCI slot weirdness is always fun 😁

I've used the Voodoo in 2 separate Win98 systems with obviously different PCI slots and different sound cards. So changes of incompatibility with soundcards and pci weirdness are slim to none I would think. I'll take out the card and look for damage on the chips.

meljor wrote:

3dmark 99 runs fine on a v2 (and would be much quicker than the riva 128). it even runs fine on a voodoo1. […]
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3dmark 99 runs fine on a v2 (and would be much quicker than the riva 128). it even runs fine on a voodoo1.

Take the card out and inspect every chip and see if none of the tiny legs on the chips touch or even came loose. There are a LOT of them and they get damaged very easily often resulting in the hardware getting detected but not working, a black screen or artifacts depending on which chip is the problem.

I fixed a couple of them by straightening a bend leg (or two..) with a small needle and some patience. Cards worked fine after that.

If that isn't the problem and there is no other damage the card is probably dead.

Why would a damage card, a hardware issue, result in the inability to connect the right driver, a software issue?

Looks fine to me too but i can not see every single leg on the foto's. Look only at the 3 chips with ''3dfx'' on them, every single leg of the chip. If they are not bend and short with another pin they are ok.

If there is a short circuit there is a hardware failure, if there is a hardware failure the software may not see the card, or fully recognise it. Simple as that.

Otherwise there can be all sorts of things (bad connection, chip failure etc.) and the card may just be dead.

I don't remember how driver tabs looks like in Win98 for a Voodoo2, but from what i can see, card was detected by the PC and drivers were installed (resource tab is present), what do you get when trying to run glide games?

SSTV2 wrote:

I don't remember how driver tabs looks like in Win98 for a Voodoo2, but from what i can see, card was detected by the PC and drivers were installed (resource tab is present), what do you get when trying to run glide games?

The drivers arent' loaded, and running a glide game uses the riva 128 card. Also the benchmark tool doesn't see the Voodoo card.

Is the OS build a clean one from scratch, or are you trying to install on an old, existing build? If it is an old build, then you might have old/conflicting Voodoo drivers that are causing you grief.

akula65 wrote:

Is the OS build a clean one from scratch, or are you trying to install on an old, existing build? If it is an old build, then you might have old/conflicting Voodoo drivers that are causing you grief.

Gotta be it, installed card myself in Win98 machine with V2.10 drivers, didn't even had to restart PC for it to be detected by all games both in glide and D3D modes. That "No driver files are required or have been loaded for this device" line can be ignored in driver tab. Use 3dfx driver sweeper or manually delete all files associated with 3dfx, also delete driver info database from your previous installs in c:\windows\inf.

Good luck.

Just noticed something in my own PII 450, 440BX chipset, Voodoo 2 SLI windows 98SE machine, I got a new(old) Geforce2 GTS card in today, so decided to check that out and run a benchmark.

Drivers installed fine, card seemed to be working(at least boot up, desktop, resolutions etc).

I fire up 3D Mark 99 MAX and it only lets my pick 3Dfx Voodoo 2, the Geforce2 isn't listed.

Just thought I'd post this back here, May be an issue with 3D Mark 99 rather than the Voodoo card itself, Will poke around a lot more tomorrow.

In addition to things mentioned by SSTV2, "old/conflicting drivers" would also include registry entries created by manufacturers other than that of your Riva 128.

It's an old build, so the next step will be an entire new clean install. Only then will I be sure that the change of conflicting drivers is zero.