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First post, by Jade Falcon

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What would you say is the most Ideal a video card for dual 1.4ghz Piii-s? system?

I bought a x850xt for a dual 1.4ghz system. I know it's going to be overkill. But whatever.
Anyway what would you say is ideal for such a system?
The problem is that useing both CPUs in a app or game, if more older apps had smp support a x850 might be a nice card. For single CPU apps a 9800 seems like the most one could effectively used. Or at least that's my thoughts.

Your thoughts?

Reply 1 of 37, by Darkman

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the R850 would work , but its overkill , consider either a Geforce3-4 , Radeon 9800 or a Voodoo5500 (the 3dfx drivers dont really utilize SMP , but they work well)
Geforce FX is also an option, as the kind of games that wont run well on it are also the kind of games that wont run on a Tualatin.

Reply 2 of 37, by Jade Falcon

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Thanks for the input.

My problem is finding a card that blends well with newer games that have smp supports like doom3 and HF2 and with older 9x games.
I would think that fx5950 ultra or 9800 would be a good pick here. But never having a dual 1.4ghz setup before I really don't know. The closest thing I had was a dual 1ghz piii and single 1.4ghz piii setup.

Reply 3 of 37, by Darkman

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Jade Falcon wrote:

Thanks for the input.

My problem is finding a card that blends well with newer games that have smp supports like doom3 and HF2 and with older 9x games.
I would think that fx5950 ultra or 9800 would be a good pick here. But never having a dual 1.4ghz setup before I really don't know. The closest thing I had was a dual 1ghz piii and single 1.4ghz piii setup.

as far as I know, Doom3 does not have SMP support, Quake4 did after a patch.

though if Doom3 is something you want to run than a Geforce 5900 would work well.

Reply 4 of 37, by Jade Falcon

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I don't really plan to use doom3 on the system, but was using it for a example. HL2 on the other hand I will. As for doom3 I thought it had SMP, both quake 3 and 4 have it so I thought doom3 might. I guess maybe I was wrong?

Reply 6 of 37, by Darkman

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Jade Falcon wrote:

I don't really plan to use doom3 on the system, but was using it for a example. HL2 on the other hand I will. As for doom3 I thought it had SMP, both quake 3 and 4 have it so I thought doom3 might. I guess maybe I was wrong?

out of the box, neither games support SMP , Quake4 had SMP support added via a patch , and it doesn't always work that well.

the FX series is actually quite compatible with older games , and still has the capability to run some newer games

Reply 7 of 37, by Skyscraper

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I do not have a dual P3 1.4-S system (yet) but with my i815 system with a P3 1.4-S I use an ASUS V9950 Ultra (FX5900 Ultra).

I'm happy with my FX5900 Ultra and I will not change it for another card unless it dies. It ran at 100+ degrees Celsius (not a typo) with the stock Asus cooler but I bolted on a huge Thermalright HR-03 and now it runs really cool which should prolong its life span.

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Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 8 of 37, by Standard Def Steve

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If you're not targeting D3D6 games, just go for the fastest non-bridged AGP card you can get for a reasonable price.
I use a 6800GT for my single P3-1575 DDR machine. At my fave retro gaming resolution of 1600x1200, it actually made a noticeable performance improvement over my previous 9800Pro with some newer games.

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Reply 10 of 37, by havli

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Doom3 has SMP support... or at least the built-in benchmark run faster with dual CPU or dual-core, or even P4 HT. But only when using nvidia GPU (GF 7900 in my case). Ati drivers seems to lack support for multithreading.

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Reply 11 of 37, by Offordef

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Short answer: HD4670 AGP
However ATI's OpenGL driver is horrible so for for Doom3/Quake4 a Geforce 7950 AGP (or a Gainward 7800GS+ AGP) is a better solution.
These cards are your best bet when using a VIA Pro266T board with Dualatins, for and older board with AGP 2* slot you are better of with NV40 Geforce 6800.
The HD4670 would give some surprising results, Crysis in 1920 * 1080 is kind of playable 😀
HD3850 performs about the same but very hard on the power supply.
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Reply 12 of 37, by meljor

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luckybob wrote:

I'd pair a voodoo 5 with a dual cpu system.

This.

A dual cpu needs a dual gpu, so v2 sli will be good too. Ati rage fury maxx is also good.
Also needs 2 ram sticks, 2 casefan's, 2 cdrom players, 2 floppydrives, 2 harddisks...... 🤣

But seriously, i have a v5 5500 in my single tualatin 1400 and it is a good combination.

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Reply 13 of 37, by agent_x007

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Offordef wrote:
Short answer: HD4670 AGP However ATI's OpenGL driver is horrible so for for Doom3/Quake4 a Geforce 7950 AGP (or a Gainward 7800G […]
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Short answer: HD4670 AGP
However ATI's OpenGL driver is horrible so for for Doom3/Quake4 a Geforce 7950 AGP (or a Gainward 7800GS+ AGP) is a better solution.
These cards are your best bet when using a VIA Pro266T board with Dualatins, for and older board with AGP 2* slot you are better of with NV40 Geforce 6800.
The HD4670 would give some surprising results, Crysis in 1920 * 1080 is kind of playable 😀
HD3850 performs about the same but very hard on the power supply.

Everything over 7800 GS and X1950 Pro/HD 2600 XT "D3", is a waste of money (because framerate in most cases will be too low even before utilising 100% of the GPU - CPU Bottleneck).

Hi 😀
Bolded part : Your CPU/RAM sucks.
Not GPU's fault it can't run Crysis smoothly.

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Reply 14 of 37, by Carlos S. M.

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meljor wrote:
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luckybob wrote:

I'd pair a voodoo 5 with a dual cpu system.

This.

A dual cpu needs a dual gpu, so v2 sli will be good too. Ati rage fury maxx is also good.
Also needs 2 ram sticks, 2 casefan's, 2 cdrom players, 2 floppydrives, 2 harddisks...... 🤣

But seriously, i have a v5 5500 in my single tualatin 1400 and it is a good combination.

the V5 will work on 2K/XP, but the ATI Rage Fury MAXX will be useless on dual CPU since it can't run both GPUs on NT based OS due to it's implementation

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Reply 15 of 37, by dirkmirk

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Why a voodoo 5?

Games like Max Payne will run well with a good DX8 videocard, my pick would also be a Geforce 58/5900 even a 56/5700 is probably a good choice too.

Reply 19 of 37, by Jade Falcon

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Why is that?
I would think under most seniors they'd hold the system back? wouldn't the 4350 be a better pick for newer stuff?

I don't know what to think here. I believe I all ready said this, but I think I'll be trying all sorts of cards in the system. I do plan to keep this system for a long, long time unlike my other builds. The last dual 370 system I had stuck around for a few years until the mobo went out.