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I think it's a voodoo 1 card, but it comes with 6mb of RAM. The cable which goes in to it from the (2D) VGA adapter is not a 15 pin cable, but a smaller round cable with 9 pins. I tried the Miro driver package, but it failed to run some games which the standard voodoo 1 reference driver package could run.

Some problems I noticed -

Loading glHexen, on the initial progress bar splash screen, you see small strange bits of garbled graphics. (This occurs with all 3 driver packages I've tried: miro, reference, and something called "ice man".) When the game itself appears, all seems to be OK. Also, I did once notice that the "3dfx splash screen" looked a garbled.

Screamer rally works, watching the opening demo segment, but only for about 30 seconds. It then quits with some kind of "2mb boundary problem" - sorry, I forget what it says exactly.

Redguard seems to work, but only with the reference drivers, not with the miro drivers.

I don't know if my card has got some hardware problems, or it's just driver related?

Any thoughts on this curious piece of hardware?

Reply 1 of 8, by Davros

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screamer rally there should be an optin in the 3dfx control panel to limit texture mem to 2mb

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Reply 2 of 8, by retro games 100

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Davros wrote:

screamer rally there should be an optin in the 3dfx control panel to limit texture mem to 2mb

I remember spotting that option in the miro control panel, and I ticked that check box (to limit texture mem to 2mb), but unfortunately it didn't help. In fact, using the miro driver package, I could never get this game to run at all. (I don't think there was this texture mem option inside the reference driver package, which did allow you to view the intro demo for a short while, before it quit back to DOS.)

Reply 3 of 8, by Silent Loon

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The Miro Hiscore 3d is a Voodoo Graphics Card with 6mb that allows in some games (Mechwarrior2, 3dfx version) resolutions up to 800x600.
It should have the same board layout as the Canopus Pure 3D
Latest (miro) driver version for win98 should be 2.7.:
www.mirosupport.de (this seems to be a private site)
But the Canopus drivers may also work.
Miro used some kind of "unified" control panel, that works for both Hiscore 3d (voodoo1) and Hiscore2 3D (voodoo2) and allows to use both cards in the same machine (and shift between them i.e. for compability reasons).
Try to find an old review of that card. The uncommon loop cable is supposed to provide the best image quality (of a V1).

I suppose the problems you have are driver related, so you may have to try various drivers to get certain games working:

www.falconfly.de

Remember: "latest drivers" also means that you get the "latest" glide version in the respective package. But some games only run with older versions of glide (i.e. Mechwarrior2).

Reply 4 of 8, by Davros

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a few games failed when run on a 3dfx card with more than 2mb texture memory eg: european air war
thats why the voodoo 2 had the option to limit it
the v1 wouldnt of had the option because it only had 2mb (hiscore 3d excepted)
if there is a v2 patch for that game it may be worth a try

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Reply 5 of 8, by swaaye

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MW2 3Dfx will do 800x600 on a 4MB card. As long as a game doesn't require a Z-Buffer, I think you can pick 800x600 on a 4MB card.

I think the 6MB cards are primarily useful in OpenGL and D3D games. You can just choose a higher res than a regular 4MB card. The custom Glide ports are usually tailored to the 4MB cards though so 6MB doesn't do anything for ya.

Reply 6 of 8, by retro games 100

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Thanks a lot for all replies.

One thing I noticed about this card - it was fast! The opening screamer rally demo had a good frame rate, and the colours looked better (less washed-out looking) than on my diamond monster voodoo1 card.

Image screen quality was surprisingly average however, even with that superior uncommon loop cable. Having said that, when I use my monster v1 card, I use a really good (and cheap) monitor extension cable bought from lindy.co.uk, only £3.99 -

http://www.lindy.co.uk/vga-cable-premium-svga … 025m/37360.html

I'm sure these things can be bought all over the globe, but I would recommend not using those thin looking loop cables supplied with the voodoo cards themselves, and getting something like the above instead.

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Curiosity got the better of me, and I reinstalled the Miro Hiscore voodoo1 3dfx card. I DL'd the latest driver package from the website mentioned above - thanks Silent Loon! I then applied the Screamer Rally voodoo2 patch - thanks Davros!

And it works! 😁

Reply 8 of 8, by dr.zeissler

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so are there any problems left when choosing the miro v1 6mb?

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