Reply 16701 of 56744, by stoof
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wrote:*ESI Juli@*
What I always liked about the Juli@ (other than the awesome flip-PCB) is the fact that the TRS jacks feature balanced signals. To my knowledge, this isn't featured very often without the use of a breakout-box/cable, atleast in this price range.
There is also a PCIe version of this card, making it relevant still. The PCI version pops up for cheap once in a while around here.
Reply 16702 of 56744, by Arctic
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Got the final parts for my special 2003 system!
I will start a thread once the system is done 😀
Maybe I will add the ESI Juli@ as a soundcard 😁
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That seems to be a Voodoo 3 2000 (small passive heatsink)
Reply 16703 of 56744, by Tetrium
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wrote:Included are a voodoo3 3000 (D?) AGPV3800/32M Riva TNT2
wrote:@fitzpatr
That seems to be a Voodoo 3 2000 (small passive heatsink)
I noticed this as well.
Also the ASUS TNT2 looks more to be a TNT2 M64
Reply 16704 of 56744, by dexvx
Saw something unusual and picked below up. Looks like a Real3D Starfighter PCI. Posts fine. Says 8MB, but IIRC, it there were only 12MB and 16MB SKU's?
http://vintage3d.org/i740.php#sthash.scGZgYL7.dpbs
Reply 16705 of 56744, by Carlos S. M.
wrote:I noticed this as well. Also the ASUS TNT2 looks more to be a TNT2 M64 […]
wrote:Included are a voodoo3 3000 (D?) AGPV3800/32M Riva TNT2
wrote:@fitzpatr
That seems to be a Voodoo 3 2000 (small passive heatsink)I noticed this as well.
Also the ASUS TNT2 looks more to be a TNT2 M64
Yeah, the ASUS V3800 is a TNT2, but the V3800M is an TNT2 M64
Reply 16706 of 56744, by yawetaG
wrote:wrote:I noticed this as well. Also the ASUS TNT2 looks more to be a TNT2 M64 […]
wrote:Included are a voodoo3 3000 (D?) AGPV3800/32M Riva TNT2
wrote:@fitzpatr
That seems to be a Voodoo 3 2000 (small passive heatsink)I noticed this as well.
Also the ASUS TNT2 looks more to be a TNT2 M64Yeah, the ASUS V3800 is a TNT2, but the V3800M is an TNT2 M64
Unless I'm mistaken, the V3800 (without the M) is not passively cooled. The V3800M is. There is an Asus upgrade set for this card that adds a VR headset (not that I've ever seen it in the wild, mind you...). The card is not one of the worst M64 cards out there, works pretty well for most games.
Reply 16707 of 56744, by Munx
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Todays 1 Euro haul:
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The FireStarter 2.0 - The wooden K5
The Underdog - The budget K6
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The troll PC - The Socket 423 Pentium 4
Reply 16708 of 56744, by matze79
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wrote:Saw something unusual and picked below up. Looks like a Real3D Starfighter PCI. Posts fine. Says 8MB, but IIRC, it there were on […]
Saw something unusual and picked below up. Looks like a Real3D Starfighter PCI. Posts fine. Says 8MB, but IIRC, it there were only 12MB and 16MB SKU's?
http://vintage3d.org/i740.php#sthash.scGZgYL7.dpbs
As far as i now, the Aperature Cache doesnt count as video memory 😀
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Reply 16709 of 56744, by Carlos S. M.
wrote:wrote:Yeah, the ASUS V3800 is a TNT2, but the V3800M is an TNT2 M64
Unless I'm mistaken, the V3800 (without the M) is not passively cooled. The V3800M is. There is an Asus upgrade set for this card that adds a VR headset (not that I've ever seen it in the wild, mind you...). The card is not one of the worst M64 cards out there, works pretty well for most games.
I have an HP OEM ASUS V3800 which is passively cooled, the retail V3800 is air cooled
Reply 16710 of 56744, by PcBytes
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I just got some stuff today:
350W LC-B350ATX PSU (incredibily dusty)
Palit Geforce 4 MX440 64MB (AGP 8x variant, even says so on the VGA BIOS)
Hitachi-LG GSA-4167B DVD-RW drive (white bezel - I have the black bezel version on my main PC - this white one went in my P4 2.8GHz machine)
Hitachi Deskstar 82GB IDE HDD - it booted into a very old XP setup process (it's the first time you reboot after the text-mode setup - it has no service pack,so this will be fun finding a disc to finish it)
And a complete PC:
350W LC-B350ATX PSU (not as dusty as the one I got separately,but also had the missing components the one I bought lacked)
MSI P4MAM-L
Celeron 2.4GHz skt478
Western Digital Protege WD400 40GB IDE (already has XP installed, lmao)
512MB (2x256MB) DDR400 RAM
Abit Siluro FX5200DT 128MB - anybody know why it reports 64.0MB when booting?? Everywhere I checked, it says the Siluro FX5200DT is a 128MB card.
Generic CMI8738 PCI Soundcard
Generic IC+ - based PCI NIC
Sony CRX300E DVD-ROM
Yellowed JNC case with only one sidepanel - to the trash it goes
"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB
Reply 16711 of 56744, by dexvx
wrote:As far as i now, the Aperature Cache doesnt count as video memory 😀
I finally realized how dumb a design i740 was. It literally required the AGP aperture. So much so that the PCI version had some faux bridge and the extra 8MB just for a faux AGP aperture cache (instead of having 16MB like any normal video card).
Reply 16712 of 56744, by TheAbandonwareGuy
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wrote:I just got some stuff today: […]
I just got some stuff today:
350W LC-B350ATX PSU (incredibily dusty)
Palit Geforce 4 MX440 64MB (AGP 8x variant, even says so on the VGA BIOS)
Hitachi-LG GSA-4167B DVD-RW drive (white bezel - I have the black bezel version on my main PC - this white one went in my P4 2.8GHz machine)
Hitachi Deskstar 82GB IDE HDD - it booted into a very old XP setup process (it's the first time you reboot after the text-mode setup - it has no service pack,so this will be fun finding a disc to finish it)And a complete PC:
350W LC-B350ATX PSU (not as dusty as the one I got separately,but also had the missing components the one I bought lacked)
MSI P4MAM-L
Celeron 2.4GHz skt478
Western Digital Protege WD400 40GB IDE (already has XP installed, lmao)
512MB (2x256MB) DDR400 RAM
Abit Siluro FX5200DT 128MB - anybody know why it reports 64.0MB when booting?? Everywhere I checked, it says the Siluro FX5200DT is a 128MB card.
Generic CMI8738 PCI Soundcard
Generic IC+ - based PCI NIC
Sony CRX300E DVD-ROM
Yellowed JNC case with only one sidepanel - to the trash it goes
Maybe it had memory issues and someone flashed the bios down to only use the first 64MB of RAM?
In a less outlandish theory, it's probably just a lesser known variant. There are weird things out there, I've even seen a 128MB Radeon 7500 DDR from Diablotek.
RAM on a graphics card is like horsepower in a motor. Nobody excepts the hobbyists ever pay any real attention to it.
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Reply 16713 of 56744, by PcBytes
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wrote:wrote:Maybe it had memory issues and someone flashed the bios down to only use the first 64MB of RAM?
In a less outlandish theory, it's probably just a lesser known variant. There are weird things out there, I've even seen a 128MB Radeon 7500 DDR from Diablotek.
RAM on a graphics card is like horsepower in a motor. Nobody excepts the hobbyists ever pay any real attention to it.
The 4 RAM chips on it (there are 4 more empty RAM places that aren't populated from the factory) are Elixir N2DS25616BT-5T,which are 256Mbit.
As far as my memory goes (no pun intended) 4x256Mbit equals about 128MB.
As for the BIOS,ABIT never released the Siluro FX5200DT in a 64MB variant.
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Reply 16714 of 56744, by Arctic
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@matze79
Congrats! That Real3D Starfighter PCI is a beauty 😀
I hope I can find one too
Reply 16715 of 56744, by psychz
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Finally got my hands on one of the later 3dfx cards, the Voodoo4 4500 AGP. Had to clean the heatsink and oil the fan a bit. It replaced a Voodoo3 3000, which had replaced a Creative RIVA TNT/Voodoo 2 combination earlier 🤣 Apparently works nicely with Glide and is a bit better on D3D games than the V3 3000 (+AA). It's in a 440BX/P2@350MHz Slot 1 box. I believe that, while the 350MHz Pentium II was fine for the original gfx card combo, it might bottleneck the V4 4500. What CPU do you feel would be more appropriate for this card?
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wrote:Its not like components found in trash after 20 years in rain dont still work flawlessly.
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Reply 16716 of 56744, by F2bnp
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Nice! Voodoo4 is pretty close to the V3, so I'd say anything around a Pentium 3 500-600 should be enough for most games. The 350 will definitely hold it back a little bit, it was a great CPU for the TNT and Voodoo2 like you mentioned.
Reply 16717 of 56744, by Batyra
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Finally got my GUS ACE 1.1 - looks like new, absolutely no scratches on ISA paths, shiny PCB...
Thats gonna be an important part of my MMX build together with 2760 AWE32 with Roland SCB-55
Reply 16718 of 56744, by devius
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Holy crap, how many GUSes do you have?
Reply 16719 of 56744, by Batyra
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wrote:Holy crap, how many GUSes do you have?
Hmmm.... About 24 😎 16 GUS and 8 clones... I'm crazy about it 😀 - really
I have to take a photo off all of them at once.
Now I'm in search of Boxed classic... And I'm allways in search of GUS daughterboard - but that's seems to be impossible to find 🙁