VOGONS


First post, by dickkickem

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

I want to get one of those so I can play my older Win9x games like Quake II, SS2, Deus Ex, etc.

Anyone have a list of these laptops? Specifically ones that have 98SE driver support also? I don't want to use XP because I also want the DOS support that 98SE has. I know some of the Inspiron 8000 models and the 8100 models have this card and 98SE support, but I can't find one in decent shape for $30-$50.

Last edited by dickkickem on 2018-12-07, 17:02. Edited 2 times in total.

DOS game collection
YouTube
Instagram

My vintage rigs:
Fujitsu Lifebook E330 - Working w/ Win95
Fujitsu Lifebook C352 - Nonworking 🙁
HP Pavilion A520N - Working w/ WinXP
AST Ascentia M 5260X - Working w/ WinME
IBM ThinkPad 770 - Working w/ Win2K

Reply 1 of 11, by gca

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

IBM Thinkpad X20 has a AGP 2x - ATI RAGE Mobility M if that's any help. And it shipped with 98SE.

https://www.cnet.com/products/ibm-thinkpad-x2 … -gb-hdd-series/

Reply 2 of 11, by dickkickem

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
gca wrote:

IBM Thinkpad X20 has a AGP 2x - ATI RAGE Mobility M if that's any help. And it shipped with 98SE.

https://www.cnet.com/products/ibm-thinkpad-x2 … -gb-hdd-series/

That might work, but it's only a 4MB, that and I can't find one on eBay 🙁

DOS game collection
YouTube
Instagram

My vintage rigs:
Fujitsu Lifebook E330 - Working w/ Win95
Fujitsu Lifebook C352 - Nonworking 🙁
HP Pavilion A520N - Working w/ WinXP
AST Ascentia M 5260X - Working w/ WinME
IBM ThinkPad 770 - Working w/ Win2K

Reply 3 of 11, by bregolin

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

The Compaq Evo in my signature has one, and I'm running ME on it so I'm sure you could run 98SE if you'd like, but the lack of a Sound Blaster-compatible audio codec makes it useless for real-mode DOS gaming.

IBM Aptiva 2162 - P55 166 MMX, 32MB, CS4237B + Wavetable, ATI Mach64 2MB / Win98SE
Custom PIII 750, 64MB, SB AWE64, Voodoo 3 3000 AGP / Win98SE
Sony Vaio z505 SuperSlim - PIII 550, 192MB, YMF744, NeoMagic 256AV+ / Win98SE

Reply 4 of 11, by KCompRoom2000

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

Dell Latitude C800/C810/C840 and Precision M40/M50 are identical alternatives to the Inspiron 8000/8100/8200 laptops. Those might be easier to find than their Inspiron counterparts, YMMV.

Other Dell laptops worth mentioning are the Latitude C610/C640 and Inspiron 4100/4150 (the Latitude C600 and Inspiron 4000 have 8/16MB ATI Rage GPUs, so those models might not suit your needs).

If any of those Dells are hard to find, there should be some other brands that still suit your needs (like an IBM Thinkpad or a Compaq EVO).

I still post here, but only occasionally.

Reply 5 of 11, by Errius

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

The Dell Inspiron 8000/8100 can take the 32 MB GeForce2 Go, and Inspiron 8200 can take 64 MB GeForce4 440 Go.

“Your mission is to attack and destroy the Apple Computer manufacturing plant. You are allotted 35 bombs and 60 lasers."

Reply 6 of 11, by KCompRoom2000

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
Errius wrote:

The Dell Inspiron 8000/8100 can take the 32 MB GeForce2 Go, and Inspiron 8200 can take 64 MB GeForce4 440 Go.

Actually, the Dell Inspiron 8100 (and possibly the 8000) can be upgraded to a 64MB Geforce4 440 Go.
http://www.bay-wolf.com/geforce4-1.htm
http://www.bay-wolf.com/videoupgrade.htm

Looks like they might also be able to take an ATI Mobility Radeon 7500/9000 or an nVidia Quadro4 700 Go GL.

I still post here, but only occasionally.

Reply 7 of 11, by dickkickem

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
KCompRoom2000 wrote:
Actually, the Dell Inspiron 8100 (and possibly the 8000) can be upgraded to a 64MB Geforce4 440 Go. http://www.bay-wolf.com/gefo […]
Show full quote
Errius wrote:

The Dell Inspiron 8000/8100 can take the 32 MB GeForce2 Go, and Inspiron 8200 can take 64 MB GeForce4 440 Go.

Actually, the Dell Inspiron 8100 (and possibly the 8000) can be upgraded to a 64MB Geforce4 440 Go.
http://www.bay-wolf.com/geforce4-1.htm
http://www.bay-wolf.com/videoupgrade.htm

Looks like they might also be able to take an ATI Mobility Radeon 7500/9000 or an nVidia Quadro4 700 Go GL.

Okay, now this is epic. Definitely going to get one or before Christmas.

Does the GeForce4 440 Go have Win98SE drivers btw?

Now time to find one that works that isn't a ridic price.

DOS game collection
YouTube
Instagram

My vintage rigs:
Fujitsu Lifebook E330 - Working w/ Win95
Fujitsu Lifebook C352 - Nonworking 🙁
HP Pavilion A520N - Working w/ WinXP
AST Ascentia M 5260X - Working w/ WinME
IBM ThinkPad 770 - Working w/ Win2K

Reply 8 of 11, by KCompRoom2000

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
dickkickem wrote:

Does the GeForce4 440 Go have Win98SE drivers btw?

Now time to find one that works that isn't a ridic price.

You should be able to do a .inf mod to make stock nVidia drivers work with the 440 Go GPU (I'd recommend a driver version ranging from 40.71 to 45.23). Though the Geforce2 Go should be more common on those laptops and has official Dell drivers for Windows 9x.

I still post here, but only occasionally.

Reply 9 of 11, by Errius

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

I would worry about cooling when putting graphic cards in machines that were not designed to take them.

“Your mission is to attack and destroy the Apple Computer manufacturing plant. You are allotted 35 bombs and 60 lasers."

Reply 10 of 11, by xjas

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

My Thinkpad x24 has a P3/1133 and an 8MB(?? <-- there's conflicting info about this; some sites say 32MB) Radeon 7000. I also have a Dell Inspiron 600m (same as a Latitude D600) with a 32MB Radeon 9000. The Dell is "just barely" Win98 capable; there are drivers out there for everything but you'll have to hunt them all down yourself & maybe do a lot of tweaking. Someone on this board sussed it out a while ago. I haven't tried.

I had at least three Latitude D630s (a much newer C2D-based design) die at my old job because the Nvidia graphics chip (Quadro NVS 135M) cooked itself. It's a Tesla architecture chip, so just mentioning that; no idea if it was a problem for their earlier mobile chips.

twitch.tv/oldskooljay - playing the obscure, forgotten & weird - most Tuesdays & Thursdays @ 6 PM PDT. Bonus streams elsewhen!

Reply 11 of 11, by dr_st

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
xjas wrote:

I had at least three Latitude D630s (a much newer C2D-based design) die at my old job because the Nvidia graphics chip (Quadro NVS 135M) cooked itself. It's a Tesla architecture chip, so just mentioning that; no idea if it was a problem for their earlier mobile chips.

That generation (nVidia GeForce 8000 series and the parallel Quadro models) of mobile chips had a specific, well-known and documented design/manufacturing flaw that caused abnormally high failure rates. Very few video chips before or after that exhibited similar rates.

https://cloakedthargoid.wordpress.com/ - Random content on hardware, software, games and toys