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First post, by TheMobRules

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I've had a SE440BX-2 board for a few years, and it has me puzzled due to some video problems.

Years ago, when I first got this board, I paired it with a Diamond Viper V550 (Riva TNT) and everything was working just fine until one day I turned it on and heard one long beep followed by two short beeps (video issue), however despite there being no signal from the video card I could hear the HDD as Windows was being loaded and then the Windows start sound through the speakers.

After that incident the problem would occur intermittently, so I assumed the video card was on its way out and I replaced it with a Matrox G400 which worked just fine until I decided to disassemble the PC and the board went back to its box.

Fast forward to yesterday, I got an Intel 740 AGP video card that I intend to use in a new build, and figured that motherboard would be ideal, so I installed the card, a P2-450 CPU and a 128MB PC100 SDRAM stick and it fired up right away, the video signal from the i740 was great so I decided to run some Memtest passes for a basic stability test.

After a while the Memtest screen became corrupt with strange characters, so I decided to reboot (note that Memtest was still running without errors despite the character corruption). As soon as I pressed the reset button, I got the dreaded long beep followed by two short beeps with the system still booting without video signal. One thing I noticed before rebooting was that the heatsink of the video card was extremely hot, I was unable to put my finger on it for more than a couple of seconds.

So, here are my questions/observations:

  • Is it normal for the i740 chip to run REALLY hot when using the card on a DOS/Memtest environment? i.e. no 3D at all
  • Could the motherboard be killing the AGP cards due to some fault? Two old cards failing wouldn't be very surprising, but it makes me suspicious as I haven't had many cards of that era fail like that (the G400 still seems to work though)
  • I have used several known good PSUs from reputable brands (both old/recapped and new), voltages are all within ATX specs
  • Also tested with other CPUs and memory sticks

Basically I'd like to know if there is some way to determine if this is a motherboard issue as I wouldn't like to risk frying more valuable cards. I can live with the TNT and i740 just failing, but if it's the motherboard that is causing that then it would be sad as it's a great board...

Last edited by TheMobRules on 2019-02-22, 06:39. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 1 of 5, by retardware

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Does the BIOS offer manual override of the AGP voltages (for OC, OV etc)? If so, what are the current settings?

Reply 2 of 5, by TheMobRules

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Being an Intel board, it has a very limited Phoenix BIOS... the only AGP option is aperture size (currently set to 64M).

I'll see if I can dig out some other board with AGP where I can test the i740 to confirm if it also runs hot and causes artifacts there.

Reply 3 of 5, by athlon-power

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Have you checked the motherboard's capacitors and what-not? Some of those little components control voltage, and if one of the components relating to the AGP power draw is bad, it might be pumping too much/too little voltage into your cards.

I remember a video by the 8-bit guy where the CGA card in his Compaq Portable wouldn't work because of a similar situation. Granted, this was with technology 16 years older than your motherboard, but because of the sudden issues and the intermittent functionality, I'm going to assume it's a bad capacitor or some other bad component (I don't know specific electrical engineering very well, so I couldn't tell you much on the specific thing that might be dead other than a cap).

8-bit guy's video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rPr2JSKeQ0

Where am I?

Reply 4 of 5, by TheMobRules

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Well, looks like it was the i740 video card that just died. I tested it on another motherboard and sure enough, a series of beeps and no display.

Meanwhile both a Matrox G400 and a GeForce 2 MX seem to work fine on the SE440BX-2, which further confirms that the source of the issue was the i740.

Oh well, bad luck, but at least it was the card and not the board.

Reply 5 of 5, by Windows9566

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maybe reflowing the BGA chip on the i740 could solve the issue.

R5 5600X, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3060 TI, Win11
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