VGA Capture Thread

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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby ShaiWa » 2019-5-03 @ 09:39

arncht wrote:i developed an own capture tool for datapath e1s, i can share it, if somebody is interested in.
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Is your tool for e1s only or maybe also other Datapath cards?
Got the VisionRGB Pro, stil looking for a good tool for that card.
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-5-03 @ 10:57

i have no clue :)
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby xjas » 2019-5-08 @ 05:56


GODDAMN. This has been one of those "what the hell was that thing?!" prods nagging at me for at least 15 years! I had it on my DOS machine back in the day & have been trying to remember what it was ever since. All I remembered was the music ... and the rapping fish. :P

Thanks for the capture!
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-5-08 @ 11:51

you are welcome, just ask :) i remember to a lot of demos until 2000
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-5-08 @ 16:57

no, nothing.
Socket 3 VLB @ 1994.10
Socket 5 @ 1995.05
Socket 7 @ 1997.09
Slot 1 @ 2000.05
Socket A @ 2003.06
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby leileilol » 2019-5-08 @ 22:55


wow, oddly I never knew about this one, and how 3DMark2001 tributes this quite blatantly
by the way, DOSBox is not for running Windows 9x
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-5-09 @ 13:47

i created a new topic for a (maybe) interesting feature: viewtopic.php?f=63&t=66936
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-5-28 @ 06:15

Socket 3 VLB @ 1994.10
Socket 5 @ 1995.05
Socket 7 @ 1997.09
Slot 1 @ 2000.05
Socket A @ 2003.06
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby Jager » 2019-5-29 @ 11:55

Foresight Imaging Accustream Express 170
Got this board relatively cheap (less than 100 USD). On paper this looks like a perfect solution - it can capture nearly everything - DVI, HDMI, VGA (RGB & YpBpR) up to 1080p60, PCI-e, Win10 drivers, pass-through. More recent versions of this board have native HDMI, S-Video & Composite inputs, but no pass-through.
Haven't thoroughly tested it yet, but few downsides so far:
Input-lag on capture (maybe half a second, pass-through is ok) - probably true for all capture cards?
Signal auto-detection don't work with resolutions lower than 800x600 - needs to be configured beforehand. Awaiting answer from manufacturer about this.
Blurry image in OBS due to slight resolution mismatch, not sure if it's a driver or OBS fault. Overall WDM driver compatability with software isn't particulary good.
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-5-29 @ 13:17

Jager wrote:Foresight Imaging Accustream Express 170
Got this board relatively cheap (less than 100 USD). On paper this looks like a perfect solution - it can capture nearly everything - DVI, HDMI, VGA (RGB & YpBpR) up to 1080p60, PCI-e, Win10 drivers, pass-through. More recent versions of this board have native HDMI, S-Video & Composite inputs, but no pass-through.
Haven't thoroughly tested it yet, but few downsides so far:
Input-lag on capture (maybe half a second, pass-through is ok) - probably true for all capture cards?
Signal auto-detection don't work with resolutions lower than 800x600 - needs to be configured beforehand. Awaiting answer from manufacturer about this.
Blurry image in OBS due to slight resolution mismatch, not sure if it's a driver or OBS fault. Overall WDM driver compatability with software isn't particulary good.


the datapath is usable as a display - later, when I finish with the good usability of my tool - i want to focus to minimize the input lag.
Socket 3 VLB @ 1994.10
Socket 5 @ 1995.05
Socket 7 @ 1997.09
Slot 1 @ 2000.05
Socket A @ 2003.06
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby Jager » 2019-6-01 @ 10:46

arncht wrote:the datapath is usable as a display - later, when I finish with the good usability of my tool - i want to focus to minimize the input lag.

They are quite similar hardware-wise, so I think lowest possible input lag might be close enough.
Meanwhile I've got an answer from a tech support regarding auto-detect function. It turned out that the driver just searches through a specific folder for an appropriate preset file and it may choose the wrong one if there is too many files there. On the other hand, this means that you can use your pre-made presets with all neccesary adjustments.
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-6-01 @ 19:45

It looks great... but the input lag is very low. It is comparable to a lcd display with analog input.
Socket 3 VLB @ 1994.10
Socket 5 @ 1995.05
Socket 7 @ 1997.09
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-6-03 @ 15:30

new feature in my tool - override the badly detected modes :) i can capture "stupid" modex modes well (640x392, 640x512 etc), with more mode switching.

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Chronomatik Tushis - Másfél hét pozícionálás (2000)
Mandula - Dis (1998) demo 2160p60
MovSD - The Family Picnic in G-moll (2001) demo 2160p60
Blasphemy - Louis Lane (1998) demo 2160p60
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Socket 7 @ 1997.09
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-6-06 @ 07:35

Socket 3 VLB @ 1994.10
Socket 5 @ 1995.05
Socket 7 @ 1997.09
Slot 1 @ 2000.05
Socket A @ 2003.06
Socket 775 @ 2006.11 - Core 2 Extreme QX6700, Geforce 8800 GTX, Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby mitalipawar » 2019-6-07 @ 05:11

Excellent thread..Thank you!
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-6-07 @ 07:46

Socket 3 VLB @ 1994.10
Socket 5 @ 1995.05
Socket 7 @ 1997.09
Slot 1 @ 2000.05
Socket A @ 2003.06
Socket 775 @ 2006.11 - Core 2 Extreme QX6700, Geforce 8800 GTX, Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-6-08 @ 06:01

Socket 3 VLB @ 1994.10
Socket 5 @ 1995.05
Socket 7 @ 1997.09
Slot 1 @ 2000.05
Socket A @ 2003.06
Socket 775 @ 2006.11 - Core 2 Extreme QX6700, Geforce 8800 GTX, Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby RoyBatty » 2019-6-08 @ 08:44

There always audio static in your uploads, something wrong with cable or too loud or something.
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Re: VGA Capture Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-6-08 @ 16:53

Some is bad, but i always check the input and the output levels. The cables are new cordial cables with allen and heath mixer, every devices are grounded.

But could you show me examples?
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