cyclone3d wrote on 2020-04-23, 18:05:I just don't see how they can get that high of performance with ARM, especially in regards to all the "artsy" stuff that is touted by all the Apple sheeple who claim that Apple is the best for graphics, photos, etc... when in fact they have never even tried a PC that costs a lot less and will easily blow the doors off of the Apple products they so cultishly cling to.
Have you used a Mac day-in day-out for years and years (specifically for "artsy" stuff) until you've totally comfortable with every aspect of the system? And done the same alongside a Windows PC as well? If not, then you might not want to insult people the other way around, especially people like me who have used both for decades now (and for numerous different Fortune 100 companies, so not just as a hobby).
Neither of my computers are super new anymore or anything, far from it. Right now I use a pretty ancient 2013 Mac Pro at work (wasn't going to upgrade until the new one came out last year... then dragged my feet too long and Covid happened... ;( My at-home computer was a (super duper fast when I got it – again, not super new anymore) i7 7700K decked out. Both run the same Adobe Creative Cloud programs (along with just over 400 other international users I help run the Adobe Admin Console for in my company - both Mac and PC users - they can choose which they want, and with 2x included licenses per user, and some systems which are PC only, per user MANY run it on both).
For me, guess which one is nearly seamless, rarely if ever freezes on me, doesn't ever have weird lags for no reason, weird things happen randomly, freak out for no reason, asks me to update the OS like 5+ times a week always with numerous reboot cycles it feels like, programs needing to be reinstalled for no reason to get them to work again without issues, need to format from scratch about once a year to keep it running at the same speed it previously ran at, doesn't have cpu spikes when I'm not even doing anything intensive, doesn't hate the Fiery server on the $100K printer.... (and FYI this isn't just on Adobe programs, it's overall... and it's not just from me... I have a LOT of people I help manage tell me about mirror experiences)
The Windows machine, with a WAY faster and newer everything gives me all these issues very frequently. Not that the mac is perfect, but I literally get an exponential less amount of issues when I work on the Mac - it simply just runs (except for that friggin Adobe Bridge program... I hate that 🤣, it can NOT handle our 793gb image database). Which one will win when I'm doing a special blend or something in Photoshop, or rendering a video? The PC will for sure, and was definitely cheaper, but considering how I will waste no less than ten times more time on a near-daily basis just using the Windows computer normally, the Mac MORE than makes up for it overall. Like no contest whatsoever. Not even close. And time is money.