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First post, by EvieSigma

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I have an IBM Aptiva with a 500MHz K6-2 and, sadly, SiS onboard graphics. I want to add a proper graphics card but since there's no AGP slot I'm limited to PCI offerings. What would be a good card for this system? I was thinking a TNT or TNT2 but the majority of those I find on eBay seem to be AGP which is a pain.

Reply 1 of 9, by austinham

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voodoo2?

Reply 2 of 9, by BinaryDemon

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Geforce2 MX

Reply 4 of 9, by matze79

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Elsa Gladiac 511 PCI

Picture quality is ok, bit slower then other GeForce 2`s but no blurry video.

Diamond Viper V550 PCI 16Mb -> TNT1

Also good Picture Quality, combined with a V2 Card maybe.

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Reply 5 of 9, by Jorpho

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The card that you can find and that runs the games you want to play.

If all the games you want to play require a much better graphics card, then it seems this system will not be of much use to you.

Reply 6 of 9, by darry

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Jorpho wrote on 2020-05-01, 17:14:

The card that you can find and that runs the games you want to play.

If all the games you want to play require a much better graphics card, then it seems this system will not be of much use to you.

The bottleneck here will likely be the CPU of that system anyway, if we are talking about software from 1999-2000 at latest, so getting the best card that is not insanely bottlenecked makes sense . A TNT and Voodoo 3 both fit that bill .

IMHO, OP needs to decide whether Glide is needed for the games he needs to play .

Reply 7 of 9, by ShovelKnight

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matze79 wrote on 2020-05-01, 16:34:

Elsa Gladiac 511 PCI
Picture quality is ok, bit slower then other GeForce 2`s but no blurry video.

I have this graphics card, VGA output quality is very good indeed - my other GF2MX cards from Leadtek etc. are noticeably blurrier.

They all have annoying video BIOS quirks though, some games that use DOS/4GW don't work (black screen) unless you replace DOS/4GW with DOS/32A. Also using my favourite DOS directory listing program - D - results in red DOS prompt and red text output.

Reply 8 of 9, by dionb

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Anything, even a SiS PCI card, would improve performance hugely as it would reduce the memory bottleneck on CPU due to integrated VGA.

As for what the ideal solution would be - it depends on what you want to run. For DOS, VESA compatibility is key. A good-quality S3 card (868, 968, Virge or Trio) would be perfect, with 3dfx 2D+3D or nVidia as second choice. For Windows it boils down to GLide vs D3D vs OpenGL. 3dfx 2D+3D (Voodoo3 2000 PCI) would be expensive but perfect, nVidia TNT(2/M64) or GeForce2(MX) would be good and cheaper.

Reply 9 of 9, by EvieSigma

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darry wrote on 2020-05-01, 17:31:
Jorpho wrote on 2020-05-01, 17:14:

The card that you can find and that runs the games you want to play.

If all the games you want to play require a much better graphics card, then it seems this system will not be of much use to you.

The bottleneck here will likely be the CPU of that system anyway, if we are talking about software from 1999-2000 at latest, so getting the best card that is not insanely bottlenecked makes sense . A TNT and Voodoo 3 both fit that bill .

IMHO, OP needs to decide whether Glide is needed for the games he needs to play .

I'd rather play Glide games on a more high end system so a Voodoo isn't needed in this case.