dionb wrote on 2020-05-09, 00:34:

Trying to get a recent acquisition to work. It was almost new in box, but either a driver disk is missing, or the one supplied m […]
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Trying to get a recent acquisition to work. It was almost new in box, but either a driver disk is missing, or the one supplied misses half the software...

The card is reasonably interesting:
- OPTi 930A controller
- "DSP24S" 1:1 OPL3 clone
- QDSP QS700 Wavetable with what looks like 1MB of ROM
- 14.31818MHz crystal onboard, not reliant on ISA clock

So a high-end low-end card.

The floppy in the box is labeled "ISP-16V3/ISP-32 Voyetra Essentials Pack Windows 3.1x (English)". That sounds like pure Win3.1 software, but installing it actually does install a very rudimentary DOS config, with initialisation of the sound card and installation of the CDRom driver, albeit with pretty much everything else (up to the files for the init tool self test) missing. It works and offers pretty decent AdLib and SBPro2 sound. It also initialises the MPU-401 interface on 0x330/IRQ2/9. However it does not wake up the QS700 wavetable under DOS, which of course is the nicest feature of the card.

I've been digging round, but this card appears pretty unusual and drivers/initialisation for the QS700 not readily traceable. In boxpressed's thread there's a somewhat similar SILICOM MULTIMEDIA SYSTEMS / WAVEMASTER 32FGP REV 1.2, but apart from that having a different OPTi chip (the 924, with external CODEC), I can't find drivers for that either. Does anyone have DOS drivers/initialization for the QS700 synth?

Octek Tempo-32 apparently uses Opti930 and QDSP700

Driver is from here : https://web.archive.org/web/20060103181145/ht … tek/tempo32.zip

EDIT: Photo of card --> http://www.my-pc.websnadno.cz/zvukove-karty.html

Considering the fact that there were Waveblaster header daughterboards with the QDSP QS700 and that they had micro-controllers on them, in addition to the QDSP, I would guess that initialization software would likely be implementation specific .

Do you have photos of your board that you could post ?

Here are the drivers I used to use with the OPTi 930 cards with the onboard QDSP QS700 wavetable:

And here is another version:

And yes, we want pics of your card.

All these drivers seem similar . tempo32.zip is version 1.05 . 23W95.ZIP is version 1.07 . 930w95.exe is version 4.00.23, dated from 1996, and looks like the newest of the bunch .

Will try the various files this afternoon. For now pics. The card:

And the box:

Blurb on low-end cards could be outlandish, but this is next-level. I wonder whether my problem is that I didn't insert it into a 32b ISA slot 😜

Right, tried the linked files.

Good news: all of them worked, gave me a full DOS install of OPTi930 init and tools.
Although two of the installers were brain-dead and needed to be run with all the files in the root of A: to work.
Bad news: none of them did anything relating to the QS700, and as far as I could see there were no files in there (DOS or Windows) that referenced it.

dionb wrote on 2020-05-09, 14:11:

Right, tried the linked files. […]
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Right, tried the linked files.

Good news: all of them worked, gave me a full DOS install of OPTi930 init and tools.
Although two of the installers were brain-dead and needed to be run with all the files in the root of A: to work.
Bad news: none of them did anything relating to the QS700, and as far as I could see there were no files in there (DOS or Windows) that referenced it.

Well I see what is likely a micro-controller (top left, cant see markings on photo) and an EPROM (27C512) underneath, so my guess is that handles initialization and I/O between the QS700 and the onboard MPU-401 . If the drivers work for someone else but not for you, you may have a defective card, IMHO .

I'll have to try my copy of that same card and see if I can get it going.

darry wrote on 2020-05-09, 14:42:

dionb wrote on 2020-05-09, 14:11:

Right, tried the linked files. […]
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Right, tried the linked files.

Good news: all of them worked, gave me a full DOS install of OPTi930 init and tools.
Although two of the installers were brain-dead and needed to be run with all the files in the root of A: to work.
Bad news: none of them did anything relating to the QS700, and as far as I could see there were no files in there (DOS or Windows) that referenced it.

Well I see what is likely a micro-controller (top left, cant see markings on photo) and an EPROM (27C512) underneath, so my guess is that handles initialization and I/O between the QS700 and the onboard MPU-401 . If the drivers work for someone else but not for you, you may have a defective card, IMHO .

Once again: what drivers? There is absolutely nothing in the install procedure referencing the wavetable, and MPU-401 works fine (I'm listening to output from my SC-55 via the card) as I speak. Yes, it's possible that it's supposed to work completely automatically (the controller is labeled as an "Intel N80G32"), but the other cards with onboard wavetable - and microcontroller - I have also require initialization.

Tha said, I just realized my Expertmedia 3240/41 card is very similar to this. It has an OPTi 924+AD codec (which does not work with 930 init - I just tried), and an "OPTi 941" wavetable with "QDSP" subscript, so it's either QS700 or QS1000, and the same MX "QS702" and "QS703" ROMs, and a totally differently labeled, but physically identical microcontroller: LGS GMS80C501. It's known-good, although haven't had it installed for a while ("good" is not that good...), so I'll get that one running again and see if I can swap out whatever is needed for the wavetable with the 930 init and then add the MediaMagic again.

Edit:
Right, have the Expertmedia card running, using only OPTi 924 drivers - and its wavetable 'just works' with no further software or indeed mixer settings. You may have a point about the MediaMagic card not working :'(

No clue about the wave table, but I can highly recommend trying the WSS mode of that card for games that support it. I set mine to use Address 530, DMA 1, IRQ 7 and it worked flawlessly in 95% of the games that supported WSS, giving crisp 16-bit sound where applicable.

For the SBPro mode, you may or may not need some fixes for Epic Pinball, Jazz Jackrabbit and other Epic games. I have those attached in this thread (EPICFIX.ZIP inside the driver archive): OPTi 82C930 review

dionb wrote on 2020-05-09, 15:26:

Once again: what drivers? There is absolutely nothing in the install procedure referencing the wavetable, and MPU-401 works fine […]
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darry wrote on 2020-05-09, 14:42:

dionb wrote on 2020-05-09, 14:11:

Right, tried the linked files. […]
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Right, tried the linked files.

Good news: all of them worked, gave me a full DOS install of OPTi930 init and tools.
Although two of the installers were brain-dead and needed to be run with all the files in the root of A: to work.
Bad news: none of them did anything relating to the QS700, and as far as I could see there were no files in there (DOS or Windows) that referenced it.

Well I see what is likely a micro-controller (top left, cant see markings on photo) and an EPROM (27C512) underneath, so my guess is that handles initialization and I/O between the QS700 and the onboard MPU-401 . If the drivers work for someone else but not for you, you may have a defective card, IMHO .

Once again: what drivers? There is absolutely nothing in the install procedure referencing the wavetable, and MPU-401 works fine (I'm listening to output from my SC-55 via the card) as I speak. Yes, it's possible that it's supposed to work completely automatically (the controller is labeled as an "Intel N80G32"), but the other cards with onboard wavetable - and microcontroller - I have also require initialization.

Tha said, I just realized my Expertmedia 3240/41 card is very similar to this. It has an OPTi 924+AD codec (which does not work with 930 init - I just tried), and an "OPTi 941" wavetable with "QDSP" subscript, so it's either QS700 or QS1000, and the same MX "QS702" and "QS703" ROMs, and a totally differently labeled, but physically identical microcontroller: LGS GMS80C501. It's known-good, although haven't had it installed for a while ("good" is not that good...), so I'll get that one running again and see if I can swap out whatever is needed for the wavetable with the 930 init and then add the MediaMagic again.

Edit:
Right, have the Expertmedia card running, using only OPTi 924 drivers - and its wavetable 'just works' with no further software or indeed mixer settings. You may have a point about the MediaMagic card not working :'(

I was referring to the ordinary Opti drivers . I don't think there exists a QS700 specific driver, nor is one needed if the micro-controller handles init . I have seen daughtercards with the QS1000 and they have no additional micro-controller, so I'm guessing the QS1000 has one on-chip .

Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2020-05-09, 15:34:

No clue about the wave table, but I can highly recommend trying the WSS mode of that card for games that support it. I set mine to use Address 530, DMA 1, IRQ 7 and it worked flawlessly in 95% of the games that supported WSS, giving crisp 16-bit sound where applicable.

Have already done so, and yes, it sounds magnificent in Descent 😀

For the SBPro mode, you may or may not need some fixes for Epic Pinball, Jazz Jackrabbit and other Epic games. I have those attached in this thread (EPICFIX.ZIP inside the driver archive): OPTi 82C930 review

Not hugely my thing, but thanks, if I bump into it I'll know what to do.

I'm having trouble with sndinit not saving the sound16.cfg file properly on both of those versions I already posted.

Also, looking at a driver package that is specifically for an OPTi 929 with the QS700 wavetable, they are just the standard OPTi 929 set from what I can tell.

Trying another driver pack now.

It's been probably 25 years since I used one of these cards.

cyclone3d wrote on 2020-05-09, 17:07:

I'm having trouble with sndinit not saving the sound16.cfg file properly on both of those versions I already posted.

Try these drivers.

I used them primarily in DOS/Win3.1 but, from what I remember, they can be installed under Win95 as well.

ok, so this DOS package does work with MIDI. I tested with King's Quest 6 - not getting sound effects to work in KQ6 so far though - nm.. had to patch it with GOSIERRA for the problem with the sound driver init bug on faster computers:

Run install.com and it will install the DOS drivers and utilities.. and the Windows 3.x drivers if you tell it your Windows directory.

This is the same v1.05 that is linked in the other thread.

Here is the link that has the rest of the same version:
https://download.shuttle.eu/Archive_2004/Driv … io/Opti/82c930/

Try these:

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id= … 628481504944808 - DOS/Win 3.1

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id= … 709405881788202 - Win 95

Some pics from the manual:

Sorry about wonky images, a bit busy at the moment but realised this sound card was fairly close at hand so hope this helps. Manual really doesn't say anything about GM in DOS, but maybe the DOS drivers/utils are different to the ones on your supplied disk - although it seems all of them use SNDINIT.EXE and have similar contents. I'll give the card a try when time permits.

And in case anyone needs it, here's the WaveMaster 32FGP driver disk as well - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id= … 527164382952273

Good luck!

JidaiGeki wrote on 2020-05-09, 19:11:

Try these: […]
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Try these:

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id= … 628481504944808 - DOS/Win 3.1

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id= … 709405881788202 - Win 95

Some pics from the manual:
6EC2058F-D466-4161-A213-42A89FD0B66E.jpeg

9F15C3A6-6C6F-4201-9DAD-C9EBDC793D72.jpeg

64950B93-2C73-4DC4-BDF4-374A61985041.jpeg

A60823FB-B054-470D-9AD1-CC5929F7882F.jpeg

30127BCF-2B10-403A-85F6-F7B273E977AB.jpeg

Sorry about wonky images, a bit busy at the moment but realised this sound card was fairly close at hand so hope this helps. Manual really doesn't say anything about GM in DOS, but maybe the DOS drivers/utils are different to the ones on your supplied disk.

And in case anyone needs it, here's the WaveMaster 32FGP driver disk as well - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id= … 527164382952273

Good luck!

The first links are the newest drivers released as far as I can tell. The DOS part has added an option to let it work along-side other cards that have OPL if they were having issues before. 1.08f2 is the version.

JidaiGeki wrote on 2020-05-09, 19:11:

Try these:

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id= … 628481504944808 - DOS/Win 3.1

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id= … 709405881788202 - Win 95

Thanks for these. I have this Opti 82c930a card with Opti 82c941 wavetable daughtercard that I couldn't locate a driver for. I could use the DB with other cards but wanted to hear how it sounds with the matching Opti controller. Works great now!

boxpressed wrote on 2020-05-09, 23:00:

JidaiGeki wrote on 2020-05-09, 19:11:

Try these:

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id= … 628481504944808 - DOS/Win 3.1

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id= … 709405881788202 - Win 95

Thanks for these. I have this Opti 82c930a card with Opti 82c941 wavetable daughtercard that I couldn't locate a driver for. I could use the DB with other cards but wanted to hear how it sounds with the matching Opti controller. Works great now!

I wonder if the Opti 82C941 is a rebranded QS700 .
I could only find the Opti 82C941 datasheet .
http://www.bitsavers.org/components/opti/data … eets/82C941.pdf

Found some info about the QS1000, though, and it mentions "Advanced Time-variable Filter and Amplitude", like the Opti 82C941 .

https://web.archive.org/web/19990210180845/ht … .com/qs1000.htm

32 polyphonic playback at 44.1khz
Advanced Time variable filter and amplitude control ( ATFA )
Advanced Q_PCM sound synthesis.
Built-in Power management unit .
Built-in Digital DAC interface.
Built-in CPU, program ROM and data RAM.
Dynamic voice assignment.
Supports up to 16Mx8 sampling memory.