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First post, by ConventionalMemories

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By any chance are there any Kontron IP LITE owners here?
I do have one, a very nice machine with EISA backplane.

Now to configure any EISA cards i would need to use the kontron eisa configuration disk which I don't have. and if i use any other configuration utility I would need the config file for my motherboard which I don't have either.
Apart from some google books articles I haven't been able to find much on the computer online, there are no drivers let alone manuals to be found.

I’ve looked high and low for these files, like contacted every Kontron IP LITE owner I’ve found online, contacted several different Kontron offices, and some eBay sellers. And although I have found some of the original utilities the one I needed the most isn’t available anywhere. The “EISA configuration utility” and to be more precise the EISA configuration file for my motherboard. Which should be “!TWE8309.CFG”

I suppose I don't really know enough about EISA in the first place. AFAIK. The configuration utility is used to allocate resources to expansion cards and isn't really motherboard specific? And then the utility uses the config file to understand the layout and capabilities of the specific motherboard?

Would there be any way of getting around not having the right config file? Or maybe making one from scratch? What data exactly is stored in this file? Ant how does the configuration utility know which config file to ask for? Is this stored in the chipset somehow?

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The motherboard is an “EPIC486-33” manufactured by KONTRON (picture attached)
Based on the Intel 82350 EISA chipset family

Any help or advice is very appreciated, thanks.

Reply 1 of 3, by ConventionalMemories

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A little update,
I've found some of the Kontron VGA utilities tucked away on my original HDD. Sadly none related to EISA, so I'm still looking for those.

In case anyone with an IP Lite comes across this post. I've included those utilities together with the manual in a shared drive folder.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1OrtIc … sJU9dDesK5Pv0x1

The manual is in German but I've ran it through OCR so I'd be easier to select and translate.
More info about the included utilities and how to use them can be found in the manual.

Reply 2 of 3, by Roby1111

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Hi, i am owning a Kontron IP Lite for about 5 years now, but did not try to reactivate it until now (as it was not prone to battery-leakage which needs quick action...).

My unit is very clean and in good shape on first glance, but was used or at least stored under very humid conditions in the past as there is a lot of "oxide" on many of the solder joints.

Maybe -if not running stable- i will try to "rebake" it using a lot of fluxer liquid and professional rework equipment.

According to the stickers outside (and the technical "build" report found inside(!)) this unit was sold internally to some kontron division in 1995, so rather late for an 386DX ISA monochrome VGA unit.
Maybe it never was sold to 3rd party, as the preowner was somehow connected to kontron too -as far as i understood his wife selling this item to me that time.

First: Many Thanks to @ConventionalMemories for uploading the manual, it is very useful (and in german as i am 😉

I am on search for further (and deeper going) technical manuals for this kind of machine as mine is suffering from defective power-supply and i always love to have ALL documentation as well..

I am working on reviving it now temporarily using a normal AT-Style Powersupply to see if it will work anyhow (it worked when i bought it, but PSU broke down only after some minutes when i wanted to inspect it at home that time...) and maybe will try to build some permanent replacement for the PSU based on modern industrial components like meanwell.

The original PSU was very modern for that time and is also very tiny and easy to exchange. Was suprised, what small and compact PSU was mounted in that big TANK (called Portable that time)...

Maybe it even would be possible to repair it, but it is very tight inside, 2 PCBs permanently connected via at least four multi-line soldered in at both sides (!) "stacking" DuPont-Pin-headers making repair very uncomfortable...

My machine is using ISA 386DX25 board, so far no trouble with EISA config 😉

But i guess that EISA-config could be copied from some machine using the same chipset, that would be my approach. As apart from compaq there were only a few and mostly smaller competitors on the EISA market, the number of chipsets for EISA will be limited too. (compaq built and used their own chipsets, but smaller companies for sure relied on C&T or similar specialists...)

(I ve got some EISA config disks for compaq, Tandon and Olivetti machines and also some ASUS-boards which i could share if you want to give this approach a try)

I will try to retrieve the HDU contents too, maybe (hopefully!) i can add some of the missing kontron-tools then, but i do not think, that EISA tools were distributed with ISA-machines.

OT: At the time this machine was actively produced and sold i even was in contact (being student of elektrotechnik at TUM and beneath earning my money with providing PC-field services) with one of the "brains" behind kontron PC-development for short time and had even the chance to visit their development location near Freising, Germany once (i lived and worked nearby that time).
Very impressive at that time, but contact got lost and also that guy was in his "best years" that time, so for sure above 75 now...

So, any further information on this machine is welcome, i will share here whatever i can find out, too.

Reply 3 of 3, by ThermalDragon

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Roby1111 wrote on 2022-05-07, 09:25:
Hi, i am owning a Kontron IP Lite for about 5 years now, but did not try to reactivate it until now (as it was not prone to batt […]
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Hi, i am owning a Kontron IP Lite for about 5 years now, but did not try to reactivate it until now (as it was not prone to battery-leakage which needs quick action...).

My unit is very clean and in good shape on first glance, but was used or at least stored under very humid conditions in the past as there is a lot of "oxide" on many of the solder joints.

Maybe -if not running stable- i will try to "rebake" it using a lot of fluxer liquid and professional rework equipment.

According to the stickers outside (and the technical "build" report found inside(!)) this unit was sold internally to some kontron division in 1995, so rather late for an 386DX ISA monochrome VGA unit.
Maybe it never was sold to 3rd party, as the preowner was somehow connected to kontron too -as far as i understood his wife selling this item to me that time.

First: Many Thanks to @ConventionalMemories for uploading the manual, it is very useful (and in german as i am 😉

I am on search for further (and deeper going) technical manuals for this kind of machine as mine is suffering from defective power-supply and i always love to have ALL documentation as well..

I am working on reviving it now temporarily using a normal AT-Style Powersupply to see if it will work anyhow (it worked when i bought it, but PSU broke down only after some minutes when i wanted to inspect it at home that time...) and maybe will try to build some permanent replacement for the PSU based on modern industrial components like meanwell.

The original PSU was very modern for that time and is also very tiny and easy to exchange. Was suprised, what small and compact PSU was mounted in that big TANK (called Portable that time)...

Maybe it even would be possible to repair it, but it is very tight inside, 2 PCBs permanently connected via at least four multi-line soldered in at both sides (!) "stacking" DuPont-Pin-headers making repair very uncomfortable...

My machine is using ISA 386DX25 board, so far no trouble with EISA config 😉

But i guess that EISA-config could be copied from some machine using the same chipset, that would be my approach. As apart from compaq there were only a few and mostly smaller competitors on the EISA market, the number of chipsets for EISA will be limited too. (compaq built and used their own chipsets, but smaller companies for sure relied on C&T or similar specialists...)

(I ve got some EISA config disks for compaq, Tandon and Olivetti machines and also some ASUS-boards which i could share if you want to give this approach a try)

I will try to retrieve the HDU contents too, maybe (hopefully!) i can add some of the missing kontron-tools then, but i do not think, that EISA tools were distributed with ISA-machines.

OT: At the time this machine was actively produced and sold i even was in contact (being student of elektrotechnik at TUM and beneath earning my money with providing PC-field services) with one of the "brains" behind kontron PC-development for short time and had even the chance to visit their development location near Freising, Germany once (i lived and worked nearby that time).
Very impressive at that time, but contact got lost and also that guy was in his "best years" that time, so for sure above 75 now...

So, any further information on this machine is welcome, i will share here whatever i can find out, too.

Do you have any pictures of your system or scans of that document? I have an IP Lite Mono too, but I got it in parts and without its case/keyboard/HDD/FDD/Front IO panel. I'm lucky to even have got enough to get it to boot. (I still need to make some sort of case or mounting system and get my hands on some pictures of the front IO circuit board to finish reverse engineering it.) Also, I recently got around to uploading the ROM dumps from my system here: https://archive.org/details/KontronIPLiteMono_ISA_ROM_Dump