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First post, by renejr902

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Hi! I need help with this motherboard: SEANIX KOOTENAY SEA440LX. Thanks a lot !
( This is a Pentium II 266mhz and 128mb ram. )

In my benchmark video card topic i have some problems with my Pentium II 266mhz.
Motherboard: SEANIX KOOTENAY SEA440LX

I have some questions. Thanks for help.

1. I can't find a bios update anywhere. I really want to update it. I google it for several minutes even a few hours. Let me know if you find it. Thanks a lot!

2. I tried several video cards on this motherboard. Several different pci and agp Geforce and others video cards and they all work. A pci Tnt2 works too. But i tried 5 differents Agp Tnt2 video cards ( 3 tnt2 and 2 tnt2 Vanta 16) and both of them dont work in any game, i tried 5 different games. They both froze in main menu of any game. ( Except for Moto Racer 1, it did load but no textutes in games, only black and grey color. ) Even Fraps froze sometime as soon has it opened. All computer froze, i have to power off the computer. I tried all of these nvidia drivers: 2.08, 3.68, 7.76, 8.05 and 45.23. Same problems with both drivers. Its like my motherboard is allergic to tnt2 video cards LoL! Its strange enough. All geforce video cards work perfectly and with any games. I even tried installed Intel chipset driver for 440LX chipset. I tried Agp aperture to 64mb and 32mb. I tried Direct 3D test in Directx and it works good. Im not sure if other bios options can really help. Thanks for help.

3. In the bios i have no option to switch between Agp and pci video card. So if i put 1 pci and 1 agp video card, only the pci video card will boot when i power on. In this strange bios the only display option i have is Mono, cga40, cga80, ega, vga. This is really a bad bios for a Pentium II LoL! Any idea to get both video cards work in the system ? ( I just want to switch between them. ) Thanks for help.

Reply 1 of 16, by flupke11

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Do you have pictures of the actual board? The power supply to the AGP-cards might be damaged due to bad caps.

I have also an early 440LX for which there is no Bios update. Nothing to be done about that, unless someone much cleverer just writes a new one 😀.

Reply 2 of 16, by Deksor

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A picture and a bios dump from your current board would be helpful four us here : http://www.win3x.org/uh19/motherboard/show/4405
Which brand is it ? AMI ?

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Reply 3 of 16, by renejr902

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The pictures:

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Reply 4 of 16, by renejr902

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Deksor wrote on 2020-09-14, 19:56:

A picture and a bios dump from your current board would be helpful four us here : http://www.win3x.org/uh19/motherboard/show/4405
Which brand is it ? AMI ?

flupke11 wrote on 2020-09-14, 19:38:

Do you have pictures of the actual board? The power supply to the AGP-cards might be damaged due to bad caps.

I have also an early 440LX for which there is no Bios update. Nothing to be done about that, unless someone much cleverer just writes a new one 😀.

Another 2 pictures of the bios. Check the 7 pictures. Thanks a lot !

If needed, I can take pictures of bios screen.
I dont know how to dump a bios.
Thanks a lot !

Edit: Another picture. Thanks

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Reply 5 of 16, by dionb

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renejr902 wrote on 2020-09-14, 18:18:

[...]

I have some questions. Thanks for help.

1. I can't find a bios update anywhere. I really want to update it. I google it for several minutes even a few hours. Let me know if you find it. Thanks a lot!

What do you expect this updated BIOS to do for you? Possibly there's another way to achieve the same... in general, don't expect highly obscure motherboard manufacturers to do extensive BIOS update work, and never expect boards with limited functionality in BIOS to magically gain it with an upgrade - usually the limitations are very intentional and depend on the target market for the board.

3. In the bios i have no option to switch between Agp and pci video card. So if i put 1 pci and 1 agp video card, only the pci video card will boot when i power on. In this strange bios the only display option i have is Mono, cga40, cga80, ega, vga. This is really a bad bios for a Pentium II LoL! Any idea to get both video cards work in the system ? ( I just want to switch between them. ) Thanks for help.

This is pretty normal behaviour, at least with PCI initialized in BIOS (i.e. primary display).

Both devices are active and addressable as AGP/PCI devices. Only the primary display is initalized by BIOS, if you want to use the secondary display, you need to do that in software capable of running multiple displays (i.e. Windows 98).

One thing you could try:
https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-unl … n-bios-settings
- however I don't think your BIOS is locked down, it's just not very feature-rich to start with. Consider that the i440LX was the first chipset with AGP and that this was therefore first generation BIOS for it. Quite possibly nobody had considered the need to set the "Init Display First" value as something other than PCI.

Reply 6 of 16, by renejr902

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dionb wrote on 2020-09-14, 22:22:
What do you expect this updated BIOS to do for you? Possibly there's another way to achieve the same... in general, don't expect […]
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renejr902 wrote on 2020-09-14, 18:18:

[...]

I have some questions. Thanks for help.

1. I can't find a bios update anywhere. I really want to update it. I google it for several minutes even a few hours. Let me know if you find it. Thanks a lot!

What do you expect this updated BIOS to do for you? Possibly there's another way to achieve the same... in general, don't expect highly obscure motherboard manufacturers to do extensive BIOS update work, and never expect boards with limited functionality in BIOS to magically gain it with an upgrade - usually the limitations are very intentional and depend on the target market for the board.

3. In the bios i have no option to switch between Agp and pci video card. So if i put 1 pci and 1 agp video card, only the pci video card will boot when i power on. In this strange bios the only display option i have is Mono, cga40, cga80, ega, vga. This is really a bad bios for a Pentium II LoL! Any idea to get both video cards work in the system ? ( I just want to switch between them. ) Thanks for help.

This is pretty normal behaviour, at least with PCI initialized in BIOS (i.e. primary display).

Both devices are active and addressable as AGP/PCI devices. Only the primary display is initalized by BIOS, if you want to use the secondary display, you need to do that in software capable of running multiple displays (i.e. Windows 98).

One thing you could try:
https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-unl … n-bios-settings
- however I don't think your BIOS is locked down, it's just not very feature-rich to start with. Consider that the i440LX was the first chipset with AGP and that this was therefore first generation BIOS for it. Quite possibly nobody had considered the need to set the "Init Display First" value as something other than PCI.

Thanks i will try to unlock bios.

My compaq celeron 300A didnt accept any agp video card and beep, except for the compaq agp ati rage. But after i made a bios update, all tnt2 and geforce agp video card i own work with it after bios updated and even agp aperture option were added and was not there before. So a bios update could make a difference, you never know.

And i know a more recent version of my bios exist and its more than one year more recent. I found a more recent bios version and someone talked about it like in 2004 in a forum. But the link to bios update dont exist anymore. The Seanix web site dont exist anymore too.

Reply 7 of 16, by Deksor

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Yes take a picture of the bios screen please. As for dumping the bios, it's easy, just use uniflash http://www.win3x.org/win3board/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=19455 😀

Where did you find the dead link to your bios update ?

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Reply 8 of 16, by renejr902

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Deksor wrote on 2020-09-14, 23:51:

Yes take a picture of the bios screen please. As for dumping the bios, it's easy, just use uniflash http://www.win3x.org/win3board/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=19455 😀

Where did you find the dead link to your bios update ?

I uploaded several pictures of the bios. I didnt have time yet for dump the bios rom. If you still need it after seeing the 5 pictures, let me know ! 😀
Thanks !

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Reply 9 of 16, by Deksor

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Well I need the picture with the memory count, not inside the bios ^^

And yes I'd need a dump. It may be useful to someone in the future !

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Reply 10 of 16, by renejr902

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Deksor wrote on 2020-09-15, 10:52:

Well I need the picture with the memory count, not inside the bios ^^

And yes I'd need a dump. It may be useful to someone in the future !

Ok, i will do it later. About the bios with dead link. I will search again later, but i'm pretty sure it was v1.97 and the link was at seanix.com web site.

About unlocking the bios. No combination of keys made any difference, it doesn't work.

Reply 11 of 16, by renejr902

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Deksor wrote on 2020-09-15, 10:52:

Well I need the picture with the memory count, not inside the bios ^^

And yes I'd need a dump. It may be useful to someone in the future !

Hi! I uploaded the picture.

But i cant dump bios because i got this message:

Sorry but either you dont have a 486+ or CPU is in V86 mode"

I'm not using a virtual computer.

I checked on google and didnt find any information.

Thanks for answer. 😀

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Reply 12 of 16, by renejr902

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Deksor wrote on 2020-09-15, 10:52:

Well I need the picture with the memory count, not inside the bios ^^

And yes I'd need a dump. It may be useful to someone in the future !

Ok i got the bios dump working with a dos v6.22 boot disk.

https://easyupload.io/p2imkj

I made the bios dump 2 times

https://easyupload.io/a5c0co

Note: File are uploaded only for 30 days. If someone want it, you have to download it as soon as possible.

See my 2 pictures too in my last post.
( Boot pictures )

Thanks a lot for answer or help !

Reply 13 of 16, by Deksor

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I have added your bios (both dumps were identical, which is good, this means that there were no mistakes). However your screen cropped what I was looking for ^^ But it's not a problem because I can have that info out of the BIOS 😀

At least the photo mention that it's v 1.0 BIOS so there might be updates for it (which have to be found ....)

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Reply 14 of 16, by renejr902

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Deksor wrote on 2020-09-16, 10:44:

I have added your bios (both dumps were identical, which is good, this means that there were no mistakes). However your screen cropped what I was looking for ^^ But it's not a problem because I can have that info out of the BIOS 😀

At least the photo mention that it's v 1.0 BIOS so there might be updates for it (which have to be found ....)

ok the tnt2 is too power hungry.
See this:

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/getting- … -0-slot.723392/

Do you have any idea? I can change caps and regulator my father is a electonic technician.
Thanks.

Bye the way, if needed, the motherboard manual is easy to find on google.

I just uploaded a picture with the bios information you asked for before.

Thanks

About that site web. Does it store my Seanix bios? I'm not sure. Thanks

https://www.wimsbios.com/biosupdates/seanix.jsp

It seems this guy from this web site have bios update for the Seanix 440 motherboard. I cant still find it yet. Too much stuff 🤣!. Links are good.

http://run-drivers.blogspot.com/2000/04/

I found it. But im not sure iys still good. I got a strange files downloaded.

https://run-drivers.blogspot.com/search?q=seanix

I have found this, but i dont know if its the good bios:

https://biosagentplus.com/bios/2A69JSA9?ref=822

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Reply 15 of 16, by Deksor

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Ah these things are fakes.
I don't know for biosagentplus, they seem to work with wimsbios, but they want you to download their utility and pay for some sh*t. I find that terrible.
I guess you're out of luck for now. Maybe someone else can help ?

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