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Reply 20 of 31, by StormRaiser245

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Jorpho wrote on 2020-11-02, 14:58:
StormRaiser245 wrote on 2020-11-02, 10:25:

"The image must be on a host or local drive"

You already said above that you tried the exact same command and got "Drive D is mounted as d:/Pro Pinball - The Web/cd/the_web.cue". There is no reason that using the same command should give you different results unless you are typing it wrong.

Ah I got it, you were right, I mistyped it. I'll try it now and see what happens.

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Reply 21 of 31, by jmarsh

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You guys are both using "/" instead of "\". It might work in some places but it's not a good idea.
(It's why mounting the cue file worked with quotes but not without.)

Reply 22 of 31, by StormRaiser245

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jmarsh wrote on 2020-11-02, 15:47:

You guys are both using "/" instead of "\". It might work in some places but it's not a good idea.
(It's why mounting the cue file worked with quotes but not without.)

I know, but I can't type the symbol. I am using SU (Finnish keyboard) and I haven't been able to figure out the way to type "\" symbol on DOSBox since typing works differently on the program than it does outside the program. The reason why I can't figure out the way how to type "\" on DOSBox, is because I need to press CTRL + ALT and the button to type it. However on DOSBox: It doesn't do anything. I am still searching for where in DOSBox I can type "\"

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Reply 23 of 31, by StormRaiser245

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Jorpho wrote on 2020-11-02, 14:58:
StormRaiser245 wrote on 2020-11-02, 10:25:

"The image must be on a host or local drive"

You already said above that you tried the exact same command and got "Drive D is mounted as d:/Pro Pinball - The Web/cd/the_web.cue". There is no reason that using the same command should give you different results unless you are typing it wrong.

Okay now the install file is opened. What sound frequency is appropriate?

Sound output frequency:

6,000 Hz
11,035 Hz
22,050 Hz
44,100 Hz

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Reply 24 of 31, by Jorpho

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StormRaiser245 wrote on 2020-11-02, 15:51:

I know, but I can't type the symbol.

There is information about this in the DOSBox readme.
KEYBOARD: I can't type \ or : in DOSBox. This can happen in various cases, like your host keyboard layout does not have […]
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KEYBOARD: I can't type \ or : in DOSBox.
This can happen in various cases, like your host keyboard layout does not
have a matching DOS layout representation (or it was not correctly
detected), or the key mapping is wrong.
Some possible fixes:
1. Use / instead, or ALT-58 for : and ALT-92 for \.
2. Change the DOS keyboard layout (see Section 8: Keyboard Layout).
3. Add the commands you want to execute to the [autoexec] section
of the DOSBox configuration file.
4. Open the DOSBox configuration file and change the usescancodes entry.
5. Switch the keyboard layout of your operating system.

Note that if the host layout can not be identified, or keyboardlayout is
set to none in the DOSBox configuration file, the standard US layout is
used. In this configuration try the keys around "enter" for the key \
(backslash), and for the key : (colon) use shift and the keys between
"enter" and "L".

StormRaiser245 wrote on 2020-11-02, 16:03:

Okay now the install file is opened. What sound frequency is appropriate?]

44,100 Hz should be fine.

Reply 25 of 31, by StormRaiser245

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Jorpho wrote on 2020-11-02, 16:19:
44,100 Hz should be fine. […]
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StormRaiser245 wrote on 2020-11-02, 15:51:

I know, but I can't type the symbol.

There is information about this in the DOSBox readme.
KEYBOARD: I can't type \ or : in DOSBox. This can happen in various cases, like your host keyboard layout does not have […]
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KEYBOARD: I can't type \ or : in DOSBox.
This can happen in various cases, like your host keyboard layout does not
have a matching DOS layout representation (or it was not correctly
detected), or the key mapping is wrong.
Some possible fixes:
1. Use / instead, or ALT-58 for : and ALT-92 for \.
2. Change the DOS keyboard layout (see Section 8: Keyboard Layout).
3. Add the commands you want to execute to the [autoexec] section
of the DOSBox configuration file.
4. Open the DOSBox configuration file and change the usescancodes entry.
5. Switch the keyboard layout of your operating system.

Note that if the host layout can not be identified, or keyboardlayout is
set to none in the DOSBox configuration file, the standard US layout is
used. In this configuration try the keys around "enter" for the key \
(backslash), and for the key : (colon) use shift and the keys between
"enter" and "L".

StormRaiser245 wrote on 2020-11-02, 16:03:

Okay now the install file is opened. What sound frequency is appropriate?]

44,100 Hz should be fine.

The game launched and everything in it is perfectly.

I wrote down in memory the game launch command:
D:
CD \PROPIN\THEWEB
WEB

Thank you for your help and for your patience with me. I have waited for a very long time to play Pro Pinball - The Web. Of all pinball tables, it is my most favorite one.

Edit: ... "WEB: Pro Pinball, The Web CD is missing. Press RETURN to continue..."

I checked the files where the game was installed (D/DOSBox/Games/PROPIN/THEWEB There are no cue, bin nor bat files in there. Is this the reason for this error message?

If it is any of help, I wrote on the autoexec section at dosbox-0.74-3 following line:

[autoexec]
mount D "D:\DOSBox\Games"
mount C "C:\" -t cdrom
D:

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Reply 26 of 31, by Jorpho

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Why would you do that? That makes no sense.

You need to mount the directories (and the image file) exactly the same way as you did when you installed the game.

Reply 27 of 31, by StormRaiser245

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Jorpho wrote on 2020-11-02, 16:57:

Why would you do that? That makes no sense.

You need to mount the directories (and the image file) exactly the same way as you did when you installed the game.

Because I thought that after installing the game, it would be the only way to launch the game.

mount C "C:/Users/whatever/Documents/DOSBox stuff/Games"
imgmount d "d:/Pro Pinball - The Web/cd/the_web.cue" -t cdrom
d:
install

Is this the one you talk about except that instead of "install" there must be "WEB" or something else to launch the game?

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Reply 28 of 31, by Jorpho

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StormRaiser245 wrote on 2020-11-02, 17:02:
Because I thought that after installing the game, it would be the only way to launch the game. […]
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Because I thought that after installing the game, it would be the only way to launch the game.

mount C "C:/Users/whatever/Documents/DOSBox stuff/Games"
imgmount d "d:/Pro Pinball - The Web/cd/the_web.cue" -t cdrom
d:
install

Is this the one you talk about except that instead of "install" there must be "WEB?"

Is there a new subfolder in C:/Users/whatever/Documents/DOSBox stuff/Games ? Possibly named "theweb"?

In that case, you need to run

mount C "C:/Users/whatever/Documents/DOSBox stuff/Games"
imgmount d "d:/Pro Pinball - The Web/cd/the_web.cue" -t cdrom
c:
cd theweb
web

This is the way DOS games have always worked.

Reply 29 of 31, by StormRaiser245

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Jorpho wrote on 2020-11-02, 17:09:
Is there a new subfolder in C:/Users/whatever/Documents/DOSBox stuff/Games ? Possibly named "web"? […]
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StormRaiser245 wrote on 2020-11-02, 17:02:
Because I thought that after installing the game, it would be the only way to launch the game. […]
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Because I thought that after installing the game, it would be the only way to launch the game.

mount C "C:/Users/whatever/Documents/DOSBox stuff/Games"
imgmount d "d:/Pro Pinball - The Web/cd/the_web.cue" -t cdrom
d:
install

Is this the one you talk about except that instead of "install" there must be "WEB?"

Is there a new subfolder in C:/Users/whatever/Documents/DOSBox stuff/Games ? Possibly named "web"?

In that case, you need to run

mount C "C:/Users/whatever/Documents/DOSBox stuff/Games"
imgmount d "d:/Pro Pinball - The Web/cd/the_web.cue" -t cdrom
c:
cd web
web

This is the way DOS games have always worked.

I just figured this out. At the same time when you sent your respond message.

And yes about that... I changed my C drive and D drive positions. So now C will work as my "-t cdrom" and D is my "local directory."

This is how I managed to launch the game:

mount D "D:/DOSBox/Games"
imgmount C "C:/Pro Pinball - The Web/cd/the_web.cue" -t cdrom
D:
CD \PROPIN\THEWEB
WEB

This is why I dislike coding and/or scripting stuff. It is all simply way too complicated and difficult for me to understand.

But perhaps now that all the problems I had are completely solved, I can go relax and clear my mind about this stuff...

Again: Thank you for your help and especially for your patience with me.

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Reply 30 of 31, by Jorpho

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StormRaiser245 wrote on 2020-11-02, 17:15:

And yes about that... I changed my C drive and D drive positions. So now C will work as my "-t cdrom" and D is my "local directory."

But ... why!? DOS computers were never configured that way.

I guess if it works in this case, then that's fine, but don't be surprised if other games don't run correctly when you use drive C as a CD-ROM.

Reply 31 of 31, by StormRaiser245

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Jorpho wrote on 2020-11-02, 17:27:
StormRaiser245 wrote on 2020-11-02, 17:15:

And yes about that... I changed my C drive and D drive positions. So now C will work as my "-t cdrom" and D is my "local directory."

But ... why!? DOS computers were never configured that way.

I guess if it works in this case, then that's fine, but don't be surprised if other games don't run correctly when you use drive C as a CD-ROM.

Because my "D" driver has more memory than my "C" I guess? I apologize... I was not aware that I shouldn't have done that...

I am currently using DOSBox to launch two games: Tempest 2000 and The Web. I doubt I'll be getting any other DOSBox games.

But whatever: I just changed few files locations and now they are as they are supposed to be (I guess?) With C drive working as my "local directory" and D drive working as my CD-ROM.

Main thing is: Everything works perfectly now.

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