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First post, by Geforcefly

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I've been reading up on various CMOS battery replacements, but I have a question: The board I'm working on had a 3.6v barrel battery that I removed before any damage could be done. There is an external battery connector that measures 5 volts when the power is on. Based on that, I would think that I'd need to use a 4AA battery holder with rechargeable batteries for safe operation (without modification). There are diodes around the area (shown in the attached picture), so perhaps maybe? Let me know what you think.

DOS/Win3.1: PCChips M396F v2.2 | 386SX-33 | 16MB RAM | 420MB HDD | CL-GD5429 1MB
Win98: ASRock 775i65G 3.0 | Pentium E5800 @ 3.3GHz | 512MB DDR (TCCD) | 80GB HDD | Radeon 9800 Pro

Reply 1 of 10, by Thermalwrong

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I've got the same board I think, I just put a coin cell on the terminals like this. It seems to work, but if you're seeing 5v on there, I wonder how safe it is?

Reply 2 of 10, by maxtherabbit

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Normal to see 5v on the ext battery header. It doesnt mean anything - there is a diode (or 2) protecting the battery from being charged by it

Reply 3 of 10, by douglar

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I did my first battery replacement yesterday, also with a 386sx.

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I soldered the minus pin to the motherboard and bridged one of the plus pins to the motherboard with a diode.
I used a little hot glue to stabilize the coin socket.
Diode caused the voltage to drop from 3.3V to 3.05v, but the motherboard seems to be OK with that.

Did I do that right?

Reply 4 of 10, by chrismeyer6

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As long as the battery isn't getting the charging voltage and your bios settings are being stored you should be good to go. I'd also make sure to clean off more of that corrosion as it will continue to eat away at your motherboard.

Reply 5 of 10, by douglar

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2021-01-20, 16:05:

I'd also make sure to clean off more of that corrosion as it will continue to eat away at your motherboard.

I gave it a third scrubbing with vinegar and none of the green would come off on the swab. Should I try a different solvent?

Reply 6 of 10, by chrismeyer6

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You can try some 99% isopropyl alcohol and a soft tooth brush and see if you can get anymore off and then give it a quick rinse with some distilled water

Reply 7 of 10, by douglar

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2021-01-20, 18:01:

You can try some 99% isopropyl alcohol and a soft tooth brush and see if you can get anymore off and then give it a quick rinse with some distilled water

That didn't make a dent in it either. I ended up using some "lime-a-way" cleaner that I use on hard water stains. That took off the deposits after a little scrubbing. I rinsed it well afterwards.

Reply 8 of 10, by chrismeyer6

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Good I'm glad you found something that was able to work for you. Getting it as clean as possible allows for a nice long life for your parts.

Reply 9 of 10, by Geforcefly

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Thanks for the feedback. I'll probably get a 3xAA battery holder and place it away from the board to eliminate any chance of battery corrosion causing issues.

DOS/Win3.1: PCChips M396F v2.2 | 386SX-33 | 16MB RAM | 420MB HDD | CL-GD5429 1MB
Win98: ASRock 775i65G 3.0 | Pentium E5800 @ 3.3GHz | 512MB DDR (TCCD) | 80GB HDD | Radeon 9800 Pro

Reply 10 of 10, by chrismeyer6

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That's a good idea keep the batteries as far from the other components as possible.