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First post, by criz_me

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Hey guys,

First of all: Happy Easter 😀

This may be frowned upon, and most likely for good reason - however: I recently rebuilt my Highscreen Pentium 90 that I owned back in 1994. I had this crazy idea to add in a more 'modern' GPU, so I bought a used Zotac GT610 PCI (not PCI-E), which is supposed to be in working condition.

The issue now is, that I am not getting any signal on the HDMI or VGA output. I have tried two displays. The keyboard LEDs quicky light up on boot, but not a lot more is happening.

There may be very good reasons why this setup never is supposed to work, but still I wonder why.

Zotac GT610 PCI 512 MB, Pentium 90 setup which is working OK with a Trident TGUI9440 that came with it.

Appreciate any help.

Cheers
Christian

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Reply 1 of 6, by Errius

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Old motherboards don't work well with late generation PCI cards. I think these cards pull too much power or something. I also encountered problems putting a 8000-series GeForce PCI card in an old system.

"This all reminds me when i took the windows vista sticker thingy off my old laptop, and on my washing machine as a joke. A few days later said washing machine stopped working. I still think this cannot be a coincidence."

Reply 2 of 6, by criz_me

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Thanks Errius, that may well be the reason. The Zotac manual states 29W of power draw. After some research I found out it is an Intel "Endeavor" board, Intel Advanced/EV https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/Intel_Ad … nced%E2%88%95EV

If so, I wonder if there is a way to add power to the GPU, via riser card or such.

Reply 3 of 6, by Errius

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No idea. Some of these Zotac 520/610 cards have solder points for a Molex power connector, but not this one.

"This all reminds me when i took the windows vista sticker thingy off my old laptop, and on my washing machine as a joke. A few days later said washing machine stopped working. I still think this cannot be a coincidence."

Reply 4 of 6, by Repo Man11

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In 2001 a friend of a friend donated a barebones Socket 7 (Biostar VX chipset motherboard) AT system to me, which was a major upgrade from the 66 MHz 486 that I had. It had a Cyrix CPU, and no video card. I bought a PCI video card from a local retailer. I think it was a Jaton, I cannot recall what GPU but I think it was an Nvidia. It would boot up, but when I went to install the drivers in Windows 98, it refused to work properly. A friend tried it in his P1 system, and he had the same result. These CPUs were too old to work properly with this video card. I returned it, and they sold me a used one megabyte Trident video card which worked perfectly. Chances are there's nothing you can do to get that card to work properly in that system.

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Reply 5 of 6, by criz_me

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@Errius There is a 2 pin header on the board. I cannot find a proper manual that would explain what these do. I will keep digging though.

@Repo Yeah, I knew I was talking chances, but had to try it anyway 😉 Still I wonder what the rechnical reasons are behind the issue. Power is definitely one.

I also have a TNT2 PCI with 16MB on the way to me, we will see.

Thanks.

Reply 6 of 6, by Errius

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That 2-pin header is for a fan.

These passive cards run very hot. If this bothers you, you can get a cheap PCIe Zotac card on eBay and swap the HS/HSFs around, connecting the fan to that header.

"This all reminds me when i took the windows vista sticker thingy off my old laptop, and on my washing machine as a joke. A few days later said washing machine stopped working. I still think this cannot be a coincidence."