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First post, by porjay

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It seems that my Gravis is half working.

I've setup the soundcard as Gravis Ultrasound for games the games Hocus Pocus and Raptor.

Sound side works for them but music doesn't play.

I've used the tutorial:
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=GUSPatches

To install gravis as well as downloaded Pro Patches Lite 1.60 patches. I can run the mididemo and plays the ultrasound music.

So my question is how do I get the music side of the games working?

Thank you,
Jay

Reply 1 of 10, by porjay

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I should maybe give you guys a few more details of my setup:

COMPUTER
3Ghz
1Gb Ram
1Tb (4x 320Gb HDs)

Running the latest DosBox 0.65
I don't think its a hardware issue. Computer is plenty powerful enough to achieve the task.

I'll post some screen shots of my settings when I get home.

Reply 2 of 10, by Hazekel

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Well, I know this isn't what you asked, but I can get the sound and music to work great without installing Gravis in DOSBOX. I don't know how Hocus configures the sound exactly, but I run the game through DOSBOX without doing anything special and I get the full sound and music and both are great. Try toying with the sound options in Hocus.

Reply 3 of 10, by Hazekel

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On a second note, I downloaded that Gravis files (a through f) and A, B, and E all refused to unzip saying the files were corrupt. Is there a newer link? What is wrong with those files? The other three unzipped fine.

Reply 4 of 10, by MegaBlast

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Raptor works fine for me. You don't need to install anything under Dosbox fo Gravis Ultrasound, you only need to specify a correct path to ULTRASND directory in dosbox's config file (like ultradir=C:\ULTRASND)
The only problem is this directory should be available under dosbox, so if you don't mount entire C: drive you need to copy this directory to your mount point directory.

My signature. 😀 I'll have to put something in here later.

Reply 5 of 10, by Hazekel

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Well, I got the files finally, and I installed them, but I am having the opposite problem as the guy who was working with Hocus. Under the Ravenloft games I am getting music but no sound effects. I am directing DOSBOX to the correct directory and it is loading Gravis because the game tells me whether or not it was loaded successfully, but there are still no sound effects. What am I doing wrong? DOSBOX.conf is set to TRUE.

Reply 6 of 10, by porjay

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Oh mad some replies.

As for me in Hocus Pocus the game doesn't let you in if Gravis doesn't load properly. I can get in the game and even have sound! Except the music is silent. This is the same with Raptor.

dosbox.conf file I've left default:

gus=true
gusrate=22050
gusbase=240
irq1=5
irq2=5
dma1=3
dma2=3
ultradir=C:\ULTRASND

I installed Gravis in that directory and correctly I think. I didn't copy and paste files, I did read and proceeded as the guide told me. Installed Gravis plus installed the patches through its own installer etc.

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So to sum up:

I can get sound in both games but music does not play.
I can get the music with sound blaster set only I've always wanted to hear games with Gravis setting.

Regards,
Jay

Reply 7 of 10, by NightSprinter

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I have an actual GUS, and use DOSbox as well. The big thing about music in games on an Ultrasound is that you MUST have the driver "UltraMid.exe" loaded beforehand. If not, at best you'll only get SFX or at worst nothing at all. I've had this problem playing Tyrian2000 on my computer as a result.

Reply 8 of 10, by dvwjr

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NightSprinter wrote:

I have an actual GUS, and use DOSbox as well. The big thing about music in games on an Ultrasound is that you MUST have the driver "UltraMid.exe" loaded beforehand. If not, at best you'll only get SFX or at worst nothing at all. I've had this problem playing Tyrian2000 on my computer as a result.

I believe that the Gravis Ultrasound utility TSR "UltraMid.exe" was intended to provide a real-mode only software MPU-401 interface and GM MIDI patch-caching engine for the Gravis Ultrasound Classic audio adapter. This particular Gravis Ultrasound TSR [UltraMid.exe: Last version 1.12, 40,308 bytes] required 57.7KB of valuable DOS memory in which to load.

The only solution for protected-mode games was via 32-bit protected-mode AIL3 drivers or direct register-level programming. I believe that the DOS-based Tyrian 2000 is a protected-mode game and would need protected mode GUS drivers??? 😐

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Reply 9 of 10, by porjay

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I have an actual GUS, and use DOSbox as well. The big thing about music in games on an Ultrasound is that you MUST have the driver "UltraMid.exe" loaded beforehand. If not, at best you'll only get SFX or at worst nothing at all. I've had this problem playing Tyrian2000 on my computer as a result

Spot on that was my problem. Wow omg! I get to experience it now !!!!!

Thanks mate you are a champ.

Jay

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To anyone wondering my fix:

I'm using the front end "D-Fend"

I right click on a game and go into the profile editor.
Next I click on autoexec tab.
Paste this code in there:

C:
cd ultrasnd
ULTRAMID.EXE

This will only work if you properly installed Ultrasound using the guide provided by the DosBox wiki.

Fin.

Reply 10 of 10, by NightSprinter

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It's possible that could be true, but I've used several other DOS games that made use of the Ultrasound, and just having the ULTRASND parameter and the settings in AUTOEXEC.BAT still didn't give me anything.