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Problem with XP + King's Quest 6

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First post, by isochronous

Posted on 2002-08-07, 07:59

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I'm trying to run king's quest 6 on an XP machine. I read the below thread about Sierra games, but I think VDMSound should work, I just don't know exactly what I'm doing wrong.

Basically, the game runs... but I get no sound, or video, past this screen. After it shows that, it gives me the little "walking man" cursor... until I move the mouse, that is. Then it just reverts to the starndard windows arror, and the screen looks like this. Now, I've tried running the game with both VESA mode on by default, and by running the game, then hitting alt-enter to switch to fullscreen. In the first case, it maximizes, shows the VDMSound text, then goes back to that screen in a window. No amount of hitting alt-enter could get it to work.

In the second case, it does exactly the same thing, only without the initial switch to VESA mode.

I'm running on a desktop machine, I have an nVidia video card (Geforce 3 Ti200), so I don't think it's lack of hardware support... but I just can't figure out what's wrong.

Oh, and just in case this is of ANY use at all, here's the log from VDMSound for this program.

1@I - 01:09:25.562 - VDMServicesProvider
2	VDMServices initialized (hInstance = 0x10000000)
3@I - 01:09:25.562 - SysExIndicator
4	ActivityLights initialized
5@I - 01:09:25.702 - MIDIPlayer
6	MIDIOut initialized (device ID = -1, 'Microsoft MIDI Mapper')
7@I - 01:09:25.702 - DMATransferManager
8	Transfer Manager thread created (handle = 0x00000180, ID = 2556)
9@I - 01:09:25.702 - DMATransferManager
10	TransferMgr initialized (minPeriod = 5ms, maxPeriod = 15ms)
11@I - 01:09:25.734 - AdLibWavePlayer
12	Garbage collector thread created (handle = 0x00000190, ID = 1036)
13@I - 01:09:25.734 - AdLibWavePlayer
14	WaveOut initialized (device ID = -1, 'Primary Sound Driver / ')
15@I - 01:09:25.734 - AdLibController
16	Using performance counter (3579545 ticks/s) for AdLib timing
17@I - 01:09:25.734 - AdLibController
18	Playback thread created (handle = 0x00000194, ID = 744)
19@I - 01:09:25.734 - AdLibController
20	AdLibCtl initialized (base port = 0x388)
21@I - 01:09:25.734 - SBWavePlayer
22	Garbage collector thread created (handle = 0x0000018c, ID = 3116)
23@I - 01:09:25.734 - SBWavePlayer
24	WaveOut initialized (device ID = -1, 'Primary Sound Driver / ')
25@I - 01:09:25.749 - DMATransferManager
26	DMA processing rate recovered to its normal value (upper bound =
27	15ms, last period = 15.00ms, current period = 15.00ms
28@I - 01:09:25.749 - SBController
29	SBCompatCtl initialized (DSP version = 4.05, base port = 0x220, IRQ =
30	7, 8-bit DMA = 1, 16-bit DMA = 5)
31@I - 01:09:25.749 - MPU401Controller
32	MPU401Ctl initialized (base port = 0x330, IRQ = 2)
33@I - 01:09:25.749 - MIDIPlayer
34	Garbage collector thread created (handle = 0x00000178, ID = 1196)

Reply 1 of 21, by Harekiet

Posted on 2002-08-07, 12:03

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Hmm just get the windows version of king's quest 6 and set your desktop to 256 colors and a lower resolution, works fine then.

Reply 2 of 21, by Snover

Posted on 2002-08-07, 13:51

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Yeah, I was just going to say, that looks like a problem with not running in 256-colour mode.

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Reply 3 of 21, by Unregistered

Posted on 2002-08-07, 15:12

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If I right-click on the king's quest 6 EXE, go to compatability, and choose "run in 256 color mode", it still does the same thing.

Reply 4 of 21, by Nicht Sehr Gut

Posted on 2002-08-07, 15:25

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Unregistered wrote:

If I right-click on the king's quest 6 EXE, go to compatability, and choose "run in 256 color mode", it still does the same thing.

You're running the DOS version or the Windows version here?

Reply 5 of 21, by Harekiet

Posted on 2002-08-07, 18:26

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You can't hit alt-enter with the windows version as far as i know 😀

Reply 6 of 21, by Nicht Sehr Gut

Posted on 2002-08-07, 19:11

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Harekiet wrote:

You can't hit alt-enter with the windows version as far as i know 😀

Yes, but he posted this after you referred him to the Windows version and also he referred to the "compatibility" tab which (as you know) is useless for DOS titles.

Reply 7 of 21, by Snover

Posted on 2002-08-07, 21:23

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Not only is it useless, it doesn't exist. 😉

You'll probably need to MANUALLY switch to 640x480x8 (640x480 w/ 256-colours) in Control Panel > Display, then switch back to whatever your normal display mode is when you're done.

Vlad: earn some brownie points by making a utility that actually does this, unlike the compatibility tab and ACT which don't actually succeed in doing it 😀

Oh, and this isn't a VDMSound problem, so I'm moving this thread to the Guide.

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Reply 8 of 21, by Nicht Sehr Gut

Posted on 2002-08-07, 23:57

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Snover wrote:

Not only is it useless, it doesn't exist.

Well I can't speak for Win2K, but it's working on my XP. Confirmed it with "Mario Teaches Typing 2". The weird one was "Out of this World" which only worked if you left it "Windowed" mode.

Reply 9 of 21, by isochronous

Posted on 2002-08-08, 03:45

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Snover wrote:
Not only is it useless, it doesn't exist. ;) […]
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Not only is it useless, it doesn't exist. 😉

You'll probably need to MANUALLY switch to 640x480x8 (640x480 w/ 256-colours) in Control Panel > Display, then switch back to whatever your normal display mode is when you're done.

Vlad: earn some brownie points by making a utility that actually does this, unlike the compatibility tab and ACT which don't actually succeed in doing it 😀

Oh, and this isn't a VDMSound problem, so I'm moving this thread to the Guide.

I've done that. Still gives me the exact same problem.
For some reason, I think this version of King's Quest is dos and windows - I seem to remember (back in the days of 3.1) being able to run it from DOS, or from windows 3.1

Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know... *sigh*
I should probably just get this old PII 300 that I have sitting around up and running 98, that would most likely be the easiest thing.

Reply 10 of 21, by Snover

Posted on 2002-08-08, 03:58

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Probably. It just seems really weird.
Well, I've got the King's Quest Collection so I'll try seeing if I can get it to work tonight or tomorrow.

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Reply 11 of 21, by Nicht Sehr Gut

Posted on 2002-08-08, 04:11

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isochronous wrote:

I seem to remember (back in the days of 3.1) being able to run it from DOS, or from windows 3.1

You can check to see if there's a Windows version on your CD by looking at the executables with Windows Explorer. If you see executables with distinct icons (as opposed to the plain "rectangle window" icon), then there's probably a Windows version there. Otherwise, it's DOS. Possible you were playing the DOS version within Windows 3.1?

Reply 12 of 21, by Snover

Posted on 2002-08-08, 04:43

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Possible you were playing the DOS version within Windows 3.1?

More important is the question "is THAT possible?"

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Reply 13 of 21, by Nicht Sehr Gut

Posted on 2002-08-08, 04:48

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Hey, Ive seen people play DOS games within Windows 3.1

Of course it's like juggling axes blindfolded (You know what's going to happen. You're just not sure _when_).

Reply 14 of 21, by brainiac744

Posted on 2002-12-24, 00:19

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There are two different modes on the CD. I just looked at mine, and the file INSTALL.EXE is for DOS and the file SETUP.EXE is for Windows. On my system the game won't even start though. 😠

Reply 15 of 21, by Nicht Sehr Gut

Posted on 2002-12-24, 19:03

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Originally posted by brainiac744 There are two different modes on the CD.

Yes. That had already been pointed out.

On my system the game won't even start though.

If you are running Win2K or XP, did you try running SETUP.EXE with all the compatibility modes switched on?

Reply 16 of 21, by collector

Posted on 2003-01-15, 11:12

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I finally got the Win version of King's Quest VI to run under Windows XP, but it hangs on the logo avi and the into movie. I copied all the game files to my hard drive without "Hdlogo.avi" or "Toon.avi" even the 335 mb "RESOURCE.AUD" in my KQ6 directory and modified the "win\sierra.ini" file to reflect the new paths. This allows me to run it without it trying to play the logo avi.

Since VDMSound didn't want to run with a Win exe, I created a bat file that simply has "Sciwv.exe win\sierra.ini" in it and saved it in the KQ6 folder. Set the compatability tab on the "SCIWV.EXE" to Win 95 and 256 colors. If only using compatibility mode without VDMSound, when you try yo start the game "wowexec.exe" (the Windows Win16 Application Launcher) just seems to hang and not even a window is created.

The game runs pretty well with the exception of one odd bug; the look of the cursor does change when you switch modes, i.e. "walk" "talk" etc. The action of the cursor changes but not the appearance unless you quickly dodge the cursor out of the window and back in.javascript:smilie('😕')
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Reply 17 of 21, by Snover

Posted on 2003-01-16, 00:37

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VDMSound is for DOS GAMES ONLY. Of course it won't work with the Windows interpreter!!

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Reply 18 of 21, by collector

Posted on 2003-01-16, 11:06

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Snover wrote:

VDMSound is for DOS GAMES ONLY. Of course it won't work with the Windows interpreter!!

But it does. I know VDMSound is meant for only for DOS, but I've been trying to get the windows version to work for a while (the Win version has features that the DOS one does not, such as high rez talk boxes) and have tried everything I could think of to no avail. Out of desperation I tried VDMSound via the batch file. and it WORKED. As far as I know, I'm the first to get the Win version to work. That VDMSound is designed for DOS or not is not the point. The fact is IT WORKS!!

Reply 19 of 21, by Wolverin

Posted on 2006-12-28, 10:30

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Thank You, COLLECTOR! Your method works fine!

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