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First post, by Miphee

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I bought this board to test my Xeon CPUs. I have a 650W Dell PSU, DDR2 server RAM and plenty of s603-604 Xeons but I don't have the control panel assembly that would fit in the Front connector (next to the white floppy connector).
When I plug the PSU in it starts for a split second then turns off. If I try to start manually on the Front pins it doesn't do anything.
Do I need the control panel to start it up? I have no experience with proprietary Dell server boards.
On standard mainboards shorting the PWBTN pins for a second starts the computer but it doesn't work here.
Anybody have experience with these? The board is a refurb and it's brand new (not my picture).

Reply 1 of 6, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Miphee wrote on 2021-05-20, 12:03:
I bought this board to test my Xeon CPUs. I have a 650W Dell PSU, DDR2 server RAM and plenty of s603-604 Xeons but I don't have […]
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I bought this board to test my Xeon CPUs. I have a 650W Dell PSU, DDR2 server RAM and plenty of s603-604 Xeons but I don't have the control panel assembly that would fit in the Front connector (next to the white floppy connector).
When I plug the PSU in it starts for a split second then turns off. If I try to start manually on the Front pins it doesn't do anything.
Do I need the control panel to start it up? I have no experience with proprietary Dell server boards.
On standard mainboards shorting the PWBTN pins for a second starts the computer but it doesn't work here.
Anybody have experience with these? The board is a refurb and it's brand new (not my picture).

Not sure you particularly need the button panel, but being a server I'm assuming there's some form of built-in baseboard management system at power on to check a raft of status sensors -

- does your Dell psu have both the 20-pin (12V) & 24-pin power connectors
- the standard non-redundant psu has a sensor for fan failure which might be triggering against your own psu
- most of the motherboard fans have failure sensors, and the 4-pin fan headers seem custom...how are you connecting any fans
- did your board come with the VRM for the secondary cpu...if you're only testing with one cpu, try removing it
- there may be a previously logged error which is preventing power on
- have you checked the coin cell has power

Reply 2 of 6, by Miphee

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PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2021-05-21, 04:36:
- does your Dell psu have both the 20-pin (12V) & 24-pin power connectors - the standard non-redundant psu has a sensor for fan […]
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- does your Dell psu have both the 20-pin (12V) & 24-pin power connectors
- the standard non-redundant psu has a sensor for fan failure which might be triggering against your own psu
- most of the motherboard fans have failure sensors, and the 4-pin fan headers seem custom...how are you connecting any fans
- did your board come with the VRM for the secondary cpu...if you're only testing with one cpu, try removing it
- there may be a previously logged error which is preventing power on
- have you checked the coin cell has power

I tried the basic things.
The PSU is from a Poweredge SC1420 so it fits this board. It's tested and working.
I only use 1 CPU so I don't need the VRM module. The CPU is a Xeon 2000MP (but I tried 3 other Xeon CPUs).
I don't have a fan assambly so I just used a generic heatsink. No fan attached.
I used a single ECC DDR2 RAM module in DIMM1.
I used an S3 PCI VGA.
I replaced the coin cell with a new one (not installed now).
When I plug the PSU in the board starts immediately then shuts off after a split second.
I can't find the pinout for the Front header.

That's about it. I checked the troubleshooting guide but it only mentions error codes when the fan isn't working. The error codes are displayed by 4 LEDs on the control panel that I don't have. That's why I suspect that it controls the failure sensors as well so without the control panel the board doesn't start. It's just a guess though.

Reply 3 of 6, by Horun

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Is there 40 pins for the front panel connector ? The only Dell with diag leds and a pinout could find is this one, it may or may not help...

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 4 of 6, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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No, it's only 34-pin (cable is p/n J4746 / 0J4746) but can't find a pinout for this specific header layout - problem is Dell use similar 34-pin connectors in other systems which don't match the SC1420 🙁

The small PCB is the control panel (power button + power / hd LEDs) and the large one the I/O panel, which looks to be routing connections only, except for ICs for the diagnostic LED array and USB support components. Only other connector (top left) is the chassis intrusion switch

Reply 5 of 6, by Miphee

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Thanks for the help but I couldn't get it to start. I still think the problem is a missing component but I don't have a source for those so I have to put this aside for now.

Reply 6 of 6, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Given that the SC1420 was part of their 'Value' tower server range, I'd expect limited cpu support - looks like it may have been restricted to Noconas (800MHz / 1MB L2) and Irwindales (800MHz / 2MB L2)...did you try any from either of these cpu families?