I don't want them in my OS, browser or search engine. I don't want search results and recommendations "tailored to my interest" by it. Or anything. I don't need summaries of longer texts, I can read and interpret them myself. I accept that AI has a role, but that role is not this. It just makes people rely less on their own brains and intellect and eventually makes them dumber.

leileilol wrote on 2026-02-11, 19:39:

starting threads with "i asked chatgpt"

If I see a retro hardware/gaming thread with that crap in the first post, I simply ignore it.

We've already witnessed a bunch of nonsense like "OpenGL DOS games from 1992" and similar AI slop hallucinations getting posted here.

leileilol wrote on 2026-02-11, 19:39:

In case anyone's wondering, yes I do mute users suffering from AI psychosis. Slopaganda, gratuitous really shitty upscales, posting busted LLM-crapped driver infs, generating fake compatibility lists, starting threads with "i asked chatgpt"... fuck outta here

preach it leilei

I've been accused of writing like an LLM before...

I just tend to think LLMs were trained to write like me, only much less knowlegably... I apologize in advance if I set off any mental AI greasetraps.

I personally feel that AI features need a very hard off switch on anything they are attached to, and it needs to *actually turn it off*.

As in, 'no, there is no data examined, and no traffic generated.'

This is not just for the 'if you dont use it, you lose it' reasons, but for the 'listen damnit, some data is ILLEGAL to let you sift through. Do you understand what HIPPA is?' Reasoning as well.

*OFF* needs to goddamned be MF'in OFF, not some 'well, we HID it from you! That's just as good, RIGHT?!' Bullshit.

My biggest issue is the amount of AI slop that is overtaking the internet."

There is an old German ballad, called "The sorcerers apprentice"

(The original is gripping and dramatic with a real sinister undertone. I resisted the urge to ask Chatgpt for a rhymed translation, but there are real human made English versions)

Its about a young magician, conjuring magic beyond his abilities. To ease his chores (having to fill the bath tub), he uses magic but eventually floods the entire house.

The key line is " ...die Geister die ich rief, werd ich nun nicht los ..."

Meaning that he cant control the wreights he conjured any longer. Seems like this time, we not only flooded the house...

"AI slop" means unsatisfactory content produced with AI, a para-AI issue by definition. Meaning you disagree with what people on the internet are doing and you can't find value in it. It's the classic view that gets reverted as time goes on.

Some things are just better the way they were.

vvbee wrote on 2026-02-12, 00:15:

"AI slop" means unsatisfactory content produced with AI, a para-AI issue by definition. Meaning you disagree with what people on the internet are doing and you can't find value in it. It's the classic view that gets reverted as time goes on.

Nice try, AI.

newtmonkey wrote on 2026-02-12, 02:47:

vvbee wrote on 2026-02-12, 00:15:

"AI slop" means unsatisfactory content produced with AI, a para-AI issue by definition. Meaning you disagree with what people on the internet are doing and you can't find value in it. It's the classic view that gets reverted as time goes on.

Nice try, AI.

You make the argument in that your post easily qualifies as slop and it's normal for the internet. So now when someone says 'AI slop is taking over the internet' you understand that the producer implied by the term is the internet, and by definition the target of criticism is the internet, but it's only the internet doing what the internet does. Or as a quote you can find on Wiki's AI slop article puts it, "the majority of human production has always been slop. Mediocrity is not a bug of technology; it is the baseline of culture."

...you understand that the producer implied by the term is the internet, and by definition the target of criticism is the internet, but it's only the internet doing what the internet does...

My NI (Natural Inteligence) language model already fails me...

vvbee wrote on 2026-02-12, 06:07:

You make the argument in that your post easily qualifies as slop and it's normal for the internet. So now when someone says 'AI slop is taking over the internet' you understand that the producer implied by the term is the internet, and by definition the target of criticism is the internet, but it's only the internet doing what the internet does. Or as a quote you can find on Wiki's AI slop article puts it, "the majority of human production has always been slop. Mediocrity is not a bug of technology; it is the baseline of culture."

A good example of AI hallucinating, right here.

I think that like every new "tech innovations" that came since mass consumer technology became an immense worldwide market, people eventually never had a chance to control over it and same will be for "consumer AI" integrated or not. People become smarter when there are not easy alternatives to push our human brains in its analog way, improvising solutions based on knowledges or real time thinking, instinct or whatever. The more consumer tech seem to help us, the less we use brain just like using a GPS complex system to go around your city when nobody needed even if seems like a nice on-demand tool, it end up a needed one because designed to be needed at first probably. Of course it has always been like this, it was for the phone, for the car, for the television, the smartphone, most software nowdays etc.. users has to be customers whenever they want it or not and will soon need also AI to even do the simplest things. Not the end of the world beside someone seems not that able to do anymore things we were supposed to do like social speaking, basic math, basic logic decisions, knowledges etc..

0-10%?
10-20%?
20-30%?
30-40%?
40-50%?
50-60%?

TheMobRules wrote on 2026-02-11, 03:42:

I can think of a few things: […]
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I can think of a few things:

• The tech bros are trying to push this technology everywhere as a solution for every problem, regardless of its usefulness on each application, even in the cases where it does more harm than good
• They are burning ungodly piles of money and planet resources to provide... what exactly? How has society benefited from this so far? I mean, besides the "AI artists" producing slop and former Crypto & NFT grifters that have now become vibecoders
• Pretty much all investment money (in the US at least) has been diverted to AI, even when there's no clear path to profitability (in fact, all major AI companies lose billions per month, OpenAI even loses money on the $200 subscriptions!!)
• These companies are hoarding a large part of the semiconductors being produced, which will massively impact prices of not just computers but all other kinds of appliances, cars and devices... for ever smaller improvements in the capabilities of the models
• Regardless of the usefulness or potential applications of the technology, if it's actual value has been grossly overrated (which seems very likely right now) then once major investors start pulling out it will nuke the economy
• On the other hand, if (and that's a really big IF) this technology actually delivers and fulfills its promise, huge amounts of people are going to lose their jobs and the economy will crash anyway
• I could keep adding things, such as the negative impact it has on the actual learning process, training data obtained via questionable (or outright illegal) means, and so on...

Now, the technology itself is really interesting, but it's not magic. It brute-forces natural language production by processing unfathomably large data sets, but once you start scratching the surface the cracks start to appear. Probably you'll notice that the more you know about a subject, the less precise the LLM is on that very subject. This "averaging out" of the knowledge is by design, and that's where this technology hits a wall. IMHO, rather than approaching human intelligence, the success of LLMs has proved that our language is not nearly as complex as one may think, and the actual processes by which we probe the world to acquire "new" knowledge are way deeper.

I also agree with you that having all this information on our fingertips is amazing, but we kinda had that before, it was called the Internet. The main blockers that prevented anyone to access all of it before were either legal/rights issues (that the AI companies have conveniently ignored when getting their training data) and the capabilities of search engines (Google Search was just fine until they started enshittifying it to push more ads).

What I have little patience or interest for is for the "agentic" stuff that's being pushed alongside LLMs, I consider it pure corporate Silicon Valley bullshit/grifting and refuse to interact with any of it.

^^ Wish this post could be pinned ^^

tomcattech wrote on 2026-02-11, 03:48:

Another vote for :

leileilol wrote on 2026-01-07, 18:36:

fuck it

^^ Why not? Since it has become a voting contest, let me do it again. ^^

aries-mu wrote on 2026-02-11, 12:13:

People, AI data centers are the fundamental pillar of the n€w w0rld 0rd€r and total slavery and control of every individual, 24 […]
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People, AI data centers are the fundamental pillar of the n€w w0rld 0rd€r and total slavery and control of every individual, 24 h, in every aspect of life and everything cross-checked: movements, transactions, communications, mood (yes, don't forget those emoticons or likes-dislikes we use), even behavioral and facial predictive algorithms. In comparison, Orwell's stuff is kids game.
Hey Adolph Hjtler: hold their beer!

Hence, governments (all sold to this) ABSOLUTELY WANT NEED CRAVE AI.
No AI? No NW0.
Hence... what we see

^^ It is a great pity that such ideas tend to shut down the minds of some of the cleverest people out there almost immediately. It is totally obvious where things are going, why it is going there and who are behind it all. Whenever the governments of the world start moving in lockstep, you know something else is beating the drum.

wierd_w wrote on 2026-02-11, 21:00:

I personally feel that AI features need a very hard off switch on anything they are attached to, and it needs to *actually turn […]
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I personally feel that AI features need a very hard off switch on anything they are attached to, and it needs to *actually turn it off*.

As in, 'no, there is no data examined, and no traffic generated.'

This is not just for the 'if you dont use it, you lose it' reasons, but for the 'listen damnit, some data is ILLEGAL to let you sift through. Do you understand what HIPPA is?' Reasoning as well.

*OFF* needs to goddamned be MF'in OFF, not some 'well, we HID it from you! That's just as good, RIGHT?!' Bullshit.

The makers of these "features" cannot be trusted at all. Windows settings changing themselves and installing crap you removed all over again every time the stupid patches roll around?

It must not only NOT be there, but also not magically arrive every so arbitrarily often.

No thank you, not fit for purpose.

I do not use modern Windows at all. Where I need Windows for something, I'd rather give the normie kind of "viruses" out there a fighting chance, than install a combination of spyware, malware, crapware and virus fetching agents all bundled into a modern licensed operating system.

st31276a wrote on 2026-02-13, 08:03:

aries-mu wrote on 2026-02-11, 12:13:

People, AI data centers are the fundamental pillar of

the n€w w0rld 0rd€r and total slavery and control of every individual, 24 h, in every aspect of life and everything cross-checked: movements, transactions, communications, mood (yes, don't forget those emoticons or likes-dislikes we use), even behavioral and facial predictive algorithms. In comparison, Orwell's stuff is kids game.
Hey Adolph Hjtler: hold their beer!

Hence, governments (all sold to this) ABSOLUTELY WANT NEED CRAVE AI.
No AI? No NW0.
Hence... what we see

^^ It is a great pity that such ideas tend to shut down the minds of some of the cleverest people out there almost immediately. It is totally obvious where things are going, why it is going there and who are behind it all. Whenever the governments of the world start moving in lockstep, you know something else is beating the drum.

AMEN!

st31276a wrote on 2026-02-13, 08:03:

It is a great pity that such ideas tend to shut down the minds of some of the cleverest people out there almost immediately. It is totally obvious where things are going, why it is going there and who are behind it all. Whenever the governments of the world start moving in lockstep, you know something else is beating the drum.

I think because anything along those lines has been culturally associated with "tin foil" "conspiracy theory" and all that, so that people feel like they cant be seen near the idea for fear of ridicule and rejection, and for people uncomfortable or disturbed by the possibility this gives them an out, and easy out requiring no thinking

For me it doesn't even require planning or long term intent by those in power - it is a technology that potentially allows for mass surveillance and digital tracking like nothing else before precisely because it removes the need for people to look over data.

One argument i often hear in rebuff to such conditions is the equivalent of "who is going to look at my boring life", well we have the answer now - no one is, but you will be profiled, flagged to authorities if transgressing (or statistically likely to transgress) whatever the law happens to be (another fault in the argument, assumption that laws stay the same), and manipulated by commercial and political interests (yet another fault in the argument, the idea that 'we' are beyond manipulation). these same points also apply to the empty naive rebuff of "nothing to hide, nothing to worry about"

None of this needs to even be malign in intent - even genuinely introduced to reduce risk, harm, promote health and all that - it will still be easily misused, misapplied and dangerous, and that's just in the hands of the nicest most well intentioned people

Thats not to say there cannot be large scale positives - medical facility, learning and knowledge enhancement (for those using it to do so), scientific research and even simple things that might optimise health or help your prove something (i.e if you're logged in NY then you cant have committed a crime in Seattle!).

However things can have both good and bad effects at once, of course

as to AI itself, at a small scale i have found it really effective at times, i dont share the view that its near useless but can see the risks inherent in getting something apparently complete and confidently presented very quickly

I think at this point we should come up with a codeword to use when talking about AI, that way we don't poke the bear.

https://aicompetence.org/ai-best-friends-chat … ce-human-bonds/

Didn't know that the beginnings reach into the 20th century (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_human_companion).

Makes you wonder where it will go in the following decades. If we somehow don't die by the impending WW III.

UCyborg wrote on Yesterday, 00:06:

https://aicompetence.org/ai-best-friends-chat … ce-human-bonds/

Didn't know that the beginnings reach into the 20th century (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_human_companion).

Makes you wonder where it will go in the following decades. If we somehow don't die by the impending WW III.

the article itself seems a bit "generated", the way it has that 'balance' of pros and cons as if they might be equally weighted. Whether LLMs/AIs completely screw up generations of dependant impressionable developing young people or are just 'companionship' that has the advantage of being there '24/7' remains to be seen....

gerry wrote on Yesterday, 14:57:

UCyborg wrote on Yesterday, 00:06:

https://aicompetence.org/ai-best-friends-chat … ce-human-bonds/

Didn't know that the beginnings reach into the 20th century (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_human_companion).

Makes you wonder where it will go in the following decades. If we somehow don't die by the impending WW III.

the article itself seems a bit "generated", the way it has that 'balance' of pros and cons as if they might be equally weighted. Whether LLMs/AIs completely screw up generations of dependant impressionable developing young people or are just 'companionship' that has the advantage of being there '24/7' remains to be seen....

Its 100% AI generated, Chat GPT loves its dot points and M Dashes.