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First post, by WarhammerDarkOmen

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I'm curious, as I just bought a whole system for £40 which had a Geforce 4 Ti 4200 in it so that card a lone paid for the whole system but I noticed it has a Sound Blaster Live! and i don't think its the value version?

Is this the decent one with SB 16 emulation ?

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Reply 1 of 8, by dominusprog

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Yes, and it also has a very good GM emulator.

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Reply 2 of 8, by WarhammerDarkOmen

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Great news! Thanks for confirming 😁

Windows 98: AMD Athlon XP 2400|512MB RAM|QDI 7X/400|Geforce 4 Ti 4200|Sound Blaster Live!
DOS: Pentium 100|32MB RAM|8GB CF|Sound Blaster AWE64
Monitor: Benq 1554e 15" CRT shared via KVM

Reply 3 of 8, by Repo Man11

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I'll take this opportunity to remind everyone that if you stumble upon an SB0200 (the Dell OEM one), leave it where it is. And don't mix it up with the SB0220 which is a perfectly good Live card.

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Reply 4 of 8, by darry

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I will add to the above that the SB16 emulation sounds the same on all Live! cards tha have it. The FM synth emulation is rather crappy. SBEMU will give much better results in terms of FM synyh accuracy on a Live! card, but it is still in active development and not as compatible as the emulator Creative Labs provided. For GM synth emulation in DOS, the Creative Labs provided emulator works fine.

As for the Value! vs non Value! models, this is not really much of a concern for Live! cards, unless one has specific use cases .

Generally speaking, if one wants a Live! card, making sure the model considered uses ane EMU10K1 chip, not an EMU10K1x or something else AND making sure that the card has any beyond baseline functionality that one might require is enough.

Reply 5 of 8, by WarhammerDarkOmen

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Which driver is best for this card on Windows 98 SE?

https://www.vogonsdrivers.com/index.php?catid … menustate=48,41

Windows 98: AMD Athlon XP 2400|512MB RAM|QDI 7X/400|Geforce 4 Ti 4200|Sound Blaster Live!
DOS: Pentium 100|32MB RAM|8GB CF|Sound Blaster AWE64
Monitor: Benq 1554e 15" CRT shared via KVM

Reply 6 of 8, by dominusprog

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WarhammerDarkOmen wrote on 2024-07-12, 17:20:

Which driver is best for this card on Windows 98 SE?

https://www.vogonsdrivers.com/index.php?catid … menustate=48,41

https://archive.org/details/sound-blaster-live

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Reply 7 of 8, by Gmlb256

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WarhammerDarkOmen wrote on 2024-07-12, 17:20:

Which driver is best for this card on Windows 98 SE?

https://www.vogonsdrivers.com/index.php?catid … menustate=48,41

Jospeh_Joestar has a detailed guide that will help you regarding this: Guide: Installing Windows 9x and DOS drivers on Sound Blaster Live! cards (version 3.1)

The VxD drivers mentioned in that guide are the best ones for the SBLive!

Reply 8 of 8, by Joseph_Joestar

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Gmlb256 wrote on 2024-07-12, 23:51:

Jospeh_Joestar has a detailed guide that will help you regarding this: Guide: Installing Windows 9x and DOS drivers on Sound Blaster Live! cards (version 3.1)

The VxD drivers mentioned in that guide are the best ones for the SBLive!

Honestly, I think my guide might be too complicated and potentially overwhelming for someone who has just gotten their first SBLive, as appears to be the case with the OP. Basically, it lets people use soundfonts for General MIDI music in DOS games, instead of being stuck with the default ECW sets. That alone might not be worth the hassle of the complicated install procedure, depending on one's use case.

The driver CD image that dominusprog linked seems to be for the SB0060 model specifically, so it should be far easier to get running on that card.

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