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First post, by rain

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hi i ve some issues with drivers riva tnt2 32 mb.

i ve searched forum but not find any suggestions.

games like quake 3 arena not working smoothly . tried almost every driver on https://www.philscomputerlab.com/nvidia-9x-gr … cs-drivers.html

can you suggest me driver for this card. thanks.

using ASUS CUSL2-C with pentium 3 cpu

Reply 1 of 8, by Jasin Natael

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Try 7.76 or 7.58 if you can get them to work.

Reply 3 of 8, by Jasin Natael

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I don't think that they are on Phil's page. I don't have links handy as I'm at work and not home.
I can post some later, but all I had to do was a quick Google search to find them. I'd start there.
Also, I'd keep color depth at 16bit when trying to run Q3 on a TNT2.
Even then it's not going to knock your socks off even with a PIII.
A cheap Geforce 2 GTS or Geforce 4MX440 would make a big difference.

Reply 4 of 8, by rain

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Jasin Natael wrote on 2024-12-05, 16:58:
I don't think that they are on Phil's page. I don't have links handy as I'm at work and not home. I can post some later, but al […]
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I don't think that they are on Phil's page. I don't have links handy as I'm at work and not home.
I can post some later, but all I had to do was a quick Google search to find them. I'd start there.
Also, I'd keep color depth at 16bit when trying to run Q3 on a TNT2.
Even then it's not going to knock your socks off even with a PIII.
A cheap Geforce 2 GTS or Geforce 4MX440 would make a big difference.

7.76, is better but only 640*400 mode. Higher resolutions very slow. you think pentium 4 is better choice for this card?

Last edited by rain on 2024-12-05, 18:32. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 5 of 8, by eddman

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One wouldn't expect old nvidia drivers be hard to find but they are apparently (at least when searching based on the original filenames), or I don't know how to properly look for them. Some of them are available here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010813060412/ht … ad/nvidia.shtml
https://web.archive.org/web/20010813091934/ht … om:80/nV9x.html

Reply 6 of 8, by Jasin Natael

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rain wrote on 2024-12-05, 18:13:
Jasin Natael wrote on 2024-12-05, 16:58:
I don't think that they are on Phil's page. I don't have links handy as I'm at work and not home. I can post some later, but al […]
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I don't think that they are on Phil's page. I don't have links handy as I'm at work and not home.
I can post some later, but all I had to do was a quick Google search to find them. I'd start there.
Also, I'd keep color depth at 16bit when trying to run Q3 on a TNT2.
Even then it's not going to knock your socks off even with a PIII.
A cheap Geforce 2 GTS or Geforce 4MX440 would make a big difference.

7.76, is better but only 640*400 mode. Higher resolutions very slow. you think penntium 4 is better choice fir this card?

What speed is your Petrium III? Pretty large variance from 450 to 1400mhz being available.
in any case, your performance issues aren't likely related to your CPU speed, even a 500-600mhz PIII is more than enough for a TNT2.
In other words a faster CPU won't help with having a slowish GPU.

This old Tom's Hardware review against a shiny new Geforce 256 kind of illustrates my point.
It looks like a TNT2 was pushing around 35-45fps at high detail settings and 1024x768.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/full-rev … dia,134-12.html

Lower resolution should be faster but only to a point, and TNT2 takes a heck of hit going from 16bit to 32bit color.
You are just bottlenecked.

Reply 7 of 8, by rain

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Jasin Natael wrote on 2024-12-05, 18:32:
What speed is your Petrium III? Pretty large variance from 450 to 1400mhz being available. in any case, your performance issues […]
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rain wrote on 2024-12-05, 18:13:
Jasin Natael wrote on 2024-12-05, 16:58:
I don't think that they are on Phil's page. I don't have links handy as I'm at work and not home. I can post some later, but al […]
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I don't think that they are on Phil's page. I don't have links handy as I'm at work and not home.
I can post some later, but all I had to do was a quick Google search to find them. I'd start there.
Also, I'd keep color depth at 16bit when trying to run Q3 on a TNT2.
Even then it's not going to knock your socks off even with a PIII.
A cheap Geforce 2 GTS or Geforce 4MX440 would make a big difference.

7.76, is better but only 640*400 mode. Higher resolutions very slow. you think penntium 4 is better choice fir this card?

What speed is your Petrium III? Pretty large variance from 450 to 1400mhz being available.
in any case, your performance issues aren't likely related to your CPU speed, even a 500-600mhz PIII is more than enough for a TNT2.
In other words a faster CPU won't help with having a slowish GPU.

This old Tom's Hardware review against a shiny new Geforce 256 kind of illustrates my point.
It looks like a TNT2 was pushing around 35-45fps at high detail settings and 1024x768.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/full-rev … dia,134-12.html

Lower resolution should be faster but only to a point, and TNT2 takes a heck of hit going from 16bit to 32bit color.
You are just bottlenecked.

Cpu is set 800mhz on bios. So you suggest use another gpu.

Reply 8 of 8, by swaaye

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With Quake 3 and a TNT2, to get near 60 fps, you will need to run "normal" quality 16-bit color 640x480 or perhaps 800x600. 32-bit color has a large performance hit.

At high resolution (above 1024x768) you will want at least a GeForce 3. It is a huge boost in efficiency for high resolutions.