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First post, by Raov

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Hi everyone, first post on this forum after lurking a bit, including on the issue described below.

I've had a PS/1 2133 (486SX-25, 2MB 72pin SIMM, 85MB HDD) for a couple years now, and it has worked without a hitch.
Recently I got a couple upgrades for it - a 3COM Ethernet card and an ALS100+, both working fine. But what didn't work is the RAM upgrade - I got 5 confirmed working sticks, and all gave me the same 201 error:

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...but it did show the total amount of RAM that should result if both sticks were "good":

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What's weird is that this error only occurrs when I insert the working stick in bank 0 and the "failing" sticks in bank 1. With just the "failing" stick(s) in any bank, the system does not POST at all with 1 long and 1 short beep. With just the working stick everything is totally fine. Thinking it's just something IBM did for "not approved" sticks I ran the advanced diagnostics utility, which was even more ambiguous than the POST error, giving me a dry "Replace SIMM in bank 1" message.

Stumped, I looked at the HW maintenance manual for at least a smidge of help, but did not really get anywhere. I didn't find my board FRU in there either (52G2928), with the closest being 52G2968. Specs matched too. I did find a picture of a board with the same layout but green substrate on The Retro Web, but the FRU is different - 65G3704, which also doesn't exist in the HW maintenance manual.
In case anyone can identify the board further, I will attach the pic of the board:

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SIMM in bank 0 is the working SIMM, the one in bank 1 is "failing".

So, I'm wondering - does my board only accept some sort of proprietary/pre-approved sticks or could that be a hardware issue on the board itself?

Reply 1 of 6, by Horun

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Can you post close up picture of the good ram stick and a bad ram stick ?

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Reply 2 of 6, by Raov

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Horun wrote on 2025-01-02, 01:35:

Can you post close up picture of the good ram stick and a bad ram stick ?

Sure can do.
Good stick:

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And the "bad" sticks (which is, well, all of them):

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Reply 3 of 6, by Horun

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Your working simm is a 1Mb parity simm (2 X 256kx18bit)
1 bad = hm514400cs7 = 70nS FPM, 8 x 4mbit (4MB) non parity
2nd bad = hm514400cs7 ? hard to read,
3rd bad = tms417409dj = 60nS EDO, will not work your computer
4th bad = tms41 ??? cannot read
5th bad = Alliance ?? cannot read
My guess is you need parity simms, or turn off parity in bios if possible.....

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Reply 4 of 6, by Raov

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Horun wrote on 2025-01-02, 18:05:

My guess is you need parity simms, or turn off parity in bios if possible.....

Oh the timing, I just read up on this topic. It does indeed seem like I need to disable parity somehow. Now the question is how exactly, and if it is possible at all...

Reply 5 of 6, by Horun

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from http://ps-2.kev009.com/pcpartnerinfo/ctstips/ed36.htm
"Technical Notes: CMOS. To enter the system's CMOS:
1. Power system OFF (must be Cold Boot).
2. Power system ON.
3. When an icon appears in the upper right corner of the screen, Press F1 and hold.
4. System Configuration screen will appear."
Look to see if there is a Parity setting....

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Reply 6 of 6, by Raov

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There isn't, I don't think IBM would ever expose BIOS settings that much. Unless it's hidden under some hotkey a-la InsydeH2O.