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First post, by Cursed Derp

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Heyyyyyyo,
I went to a thrift store full of old tech in Virginia. There was a giant early 80s IBM brand 5.25 floppy drive with a non-latch lock, tons of tape players, an extensive collection of dvds and vhs tapes, hordes of old and obscure games from the late 80s onward, a few ISA Audigy cards, and tons of early to mid 2000s gpus and graphics cards. I found both a TNT 2 and what I thought was an Fx 5200. Since I already had a TNT 2 M64 and FX 5200 cards are fine with even early XP games, I went with the card that I thought was a 5200.

I also got a copy of pre-BFG Doom 3, DOS Tomb Raider, and a copy of Under a Killing Moon with only one cd (I thought it had all four but I was mistaken). Everything at the store was marked as is.

The Nvidia card has a weird non-VGA connector and what looks like a ps/2 port. I tried to find the exact card online but the results were uncertain. If anyone knows what card this is, what these ports are, or what type of cable I need to use to connect it to my monitor, I would greatly appreciate it.

Also I haven't got around to opening up and fully cleaning my 5.25 floppy drive but I plan to soon.
Your advice has not gone unheeded

Thanks

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Reply 1 of 15, by paradigital

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Would help if we had a pic to go off, but my guess would be a Quadro P118, as that’s likely to have an S-Video connection (similar to PS/2) and could have either DVI-I or DMS-59 instead of VGA.

Reply 2 of 15, by Cursed Derp

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Thanks for the response. Would a Quadro P118 be good for Windows 98? Is there a way to use this card with a VGA connection on a monitor?

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Reply 3 of 15, by Repo Man11

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This is a Quadro 2, so maybe one of these?

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Reply 4 of 15, by Cursed Derp

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Repo Man11 wrote on 2025-01-05, 01:30:

This is a Quadro 2, so maybe one of these?

Good point. Maybe. The heat sink looks different, though.

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Reply 5 of 15, by Repo Man11

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Cursed Derp wrote on 2025-01-05, 01:46:
Repo Man11 wrote on 2025-01-05, 01:30:

This is a Quadro 2, so maybe one of these?

Good point. Maybe. The heat sink looks different, though.

Here's a link for an image search, maybe one of these? https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox- … 6SkJFgc3Pw&sa=X

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Reply 6 of 15, by Cursed Derp

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Repo Man11 wrote on 2025-01-05, 02:02:
Cursed Derp wrote on 2025-01-05, 01:46:
Repo Man11 wrote on 2025-01-05, 01:30:

This is a Quadro 2, so maybe one of these?

Good point. Maybe. The heat sink looks different, though.

Here's a link for an image search, maybe one of these? https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox- … 6SkJFgc3Pw&sa=X

That's probably the card. Now I just have to figure out how to find the right cable

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Reply 7 of 15, by Repo Man11

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The adapter is called a DMS59, plenty of hits on Ebay under that.

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Reply 8 of 15, by Cursed Derp

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Repo Man11 wrote on 2025-01-05, 02:14:

The adapter is called a DMS59, plenty of hits on Ebay under that.

Thanks! That's epic. I'll get a dms59 to vga cable and finish up an overpowered windows 98 build until I can find a more period correct card.

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Reply 9 of 15, by Repo Man11

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I never found one like that - I think you'll have to do as I did and use a DVI to VGA adapter on the DMS59's DVI output if you have to use VGA. This card worked fine for me on several AT Socket 7 motherboards.

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Reply 10 of 15, by Cursed Derp

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Repo Man11 wrote on 2025-01-05, 02:35:

I never found one like that - I think you'll have to do as I did and use a DVI to VGA adapter on the DMS59's DVI output if you have to use VGA. This card worked fine for me on several AT Socket 7 motherboards.

OK I'll look into that. I might have an svideo port on my monitor and I won't have to use an adapter but I'll have to check and I doubt it. The dvi is the smaller circular port right?

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Reply 11 of 15, by RandomStranger

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The PS/2 looking thing is S-Video. The card itself if it's an FX5200 should be in the same performance bracket as the MX440 and MX460, but with DX8 and DX9 support. Not really overpowered and struggles with early XP era games, but decent for a W98 budget build.

Cursed Derp wrote on 2025-01-04, 22:18:

Heyyyyyyo,
a few ISA Audigy cards

You meant Sound Blaster, right? Creative dropped ISA by the Sound Blaster Live! cards and Audigy came after those.

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Reply 12 of 15, by agent_x007

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MX 460 will be faster, because your card is 64-bit bus width (not to mention PCI vs. AGP difference) : https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro- … s-280-pci.c1455
Adapter : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807393729393.html
There is also dongle version which can split one card output into two outputs (2x DVI/2x VGA for example).

Reply 13 of 15, by Cursed Derp

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RandomStranger wrote on 2025-01-05, 06:25:

The PS/2 looking thing is S-Video. The card itself if it's an FX5200 should be in the same performance bracket as the MX440 and MX460, but with DX8 and DX9 support. Not really overpowered and struggles with early XP era games, but decent for a W98 budget build.

Cursed Derp wrote on 2025-01-04, 22:18:

Heyyyyyyo,
a few ISA Audigy cards

You meant Sound Blaster, right? Creative dropped ISA by the Sound Blaster Live! cards and Audigy came after those.

Thank you for your informative reply.
Is an FX 5200 at least more powerful in general than my current TNT 2 M64?

I didn't know Audigy was after Live! and I don't know why the cards looked like ISA to me. I haven't screwed around with PCI cards for a while. I should've got one of the Audigy cards because I got everything else for only 25 bucks total.

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Reply 14 of 15, by Cursed Derp

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agent_x007 wrote on 2025-01-05, 12:17:

MX 460 will be faster, because your card is 64-bit bus width (not to mention PCI vs. AGP difference) : https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro- … s-280-pci.c1455
Adapter : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807393729393.html
There is also dongle version which can split one card output into two outputs (2x DVI/2x VGA for example).

Thank you for the links! I will look into an MX 460.
Hopefully after being put through an adapter the signal isn't too lossy

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Reply 15 of 15, by RandomStranger

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Cursed Derp wrote on 2025-01-05, 14:01:

Is an FX 5200 at least more powerful in general than my current TNT 2 M64?

Oh, yes, much faster:

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In this the FX5200 is one with 266MHz RAM sitting on a 128bit bus, so in bandwidth a little over the 64bit/400MHz variants.
But I'd like to point out, I made a mistake with the graph. The 32MB TNT2 M64 is not an M64, that's the full TNT2.

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