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The best 5.25" drive?

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First post, by atar

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Found some old disks which I used 35 years ago. Among them there are some DS/HD disks which I couldn't read yet. I have a TEAC FD55-something (not a PC one) which can read DS/DD pretty good, but not DS/HD. Also I remember using some weird programs like 800.com/900.com/1700.exe to get all from the available drives at the university. So, now there is a challenge to read back whatever can still be read.
Which drive shall I search for? I 've been considering getting TEAC FD55GFR, but maybe there are better variants?

Reply 1 of 12, by Grzyb

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GFR will do fine.

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Reply 2 of 12, by DaveDDS

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As a serious collector of vintage systems, and the author of ImageDisk, I have seen and used a LOT of different 5.25" drives.

I like TEACs and have had very good luck with them.

I also like (and use) a fair number of Panasonics, in particular the "JU-475" a 5.25" HD drive.

The reason may not matter to you if you are only interested in PC oriented media...

DD drives rotate at 300rpm and transfer data at 250kbps. HD is much more like traditional 8" drives and rotate at 360rpm and transfer data at 500kbps.

To make HD drives able to access DD media at the "wrong" speed, data is transferred at 300kbps instead of 250kbps.

This is essentially transparent for most DD formats (incl. those used on the PC), however there are some vintage formats that many PC FDCs/data-seperators can't do at 300kbps but can at 250kbps.

I like the JU-475 because it is dead easy to add a switch at the front bezel to change it to 300rpm and therefore be able to access media written in these vintage formats.

I have a note of my site about this and how to modify the drive. Look under "Software/Images" near the bottom of the main page.

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Reply 3 of 12, by maxtherabbit

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I hate the stepper design of the ju-475. It's not reliable

Reply 4 of 12, by DaveDDS

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Odd... I've had probably a dozen or more... not had significant/unusual problems ... maybe you had a bad one?

Admittedly my main use is full image read/write ... not excessive stepping, but I've not seen even hints of unrelibality... (and I do somtimes use them for more standard type access)

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Reply 5 of 12, by maxtherabbit

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I've had 3 go bad

Reply 6 of 12, by cyclone3d

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This is where researching what is different about the environment where they go bad vs where they don't go bad comes in

Questions-
1. What voltage AC power?
2. Quality of power from the wall?
3. Surge protectors or UPS usage? If so, what brands and models?
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5. What motherboards
6. Ambient temperature range
7. Temperature inside computer case
8. How clean is the air?
9. What is the normal humidity range?
10. How stable is the power from the wall? Do you have brown or black-outs?
11. Is the computer left plugged in?
12. Is the computer left powered on?
13. Do you have drive seek enabled in the BIOS?
14. What maintenance was done on the drives?
15. What were the total usage hours of the drives?

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Reply 7 of 12, by BitWrangler

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Panasonic seems a bit fast and loose with model numbers, I've got half a dozen "JU-257" 3.5" drives and no two of them are identical. There is a submodel number on them usually though I guess may identify them more closely. Anyway, just a note that Dave and Max might have totally different JU-475s

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Reply 8 of 12, by wbahnassi

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I too vouch for these two brands. Teac has a noisy stepper. Panasonics are quieter. I'd stay away from Canon drives that use a worm stepper motor (similar to 3.5" drives). These tend to seize up and it's often impossible to fix such cases.

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Reply 9 of 12, by DaveDDS

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BitWrangler wrote on 2026-01-22, 23:27:

... Dave and Max might have totally different JU-475s ...

Entirely possible .. of the ones I've had, I have noticed what I always assumed were minor manufacuring-run differences. Different components, slight differences in layout...

Over the years, I've had literally hundereds of floppy drives, and Panasonic and TEAC has been my "go to" brands for quite some time. There have been other less common ones that were also very good, and a few more unknown ones that were less so...

In recent years I've been trying to "downsize" and haven't kept those so I don't recall exact brands/names ("Chinon" comes to mind) ... I'm also nowhere near my lab in recent weeks - so I can't even look-at/state the ones I've kept (but will be within a week and can let you know the ones I thought were worth keeping).

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Reply 10 of 12, by DaveDDS

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It is also important to keep an eye on drives condition, and do maintenance as approproate. Floppys are amone the most exposed "internal" mechanical parts of a computer...

Get "used" to how they sound, and give them a good checking if you notice an even minor change.

Take them out and perform minor clean/lubricate as appropriate. Especially the rails the head mechanizm rides on, and "worm" gear type steppers (these can pick up a low of dust).

[Don't go overboard if you decide to lubricate anything - they don't nead a lot of "oil" (I tend to use a very fine teflon based lubricant)]

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Reply 11 of 12, by DaveDDS

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I shoulsn't have to say this (but I've seen unthinkable handling of disks over the years)...

Keep diskettes clean and in sleeves when not in a drive!

They are by far the most common way dust and other "crud" gets into the drive!

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Reply 12 of 12, by BitWrangler

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Mainly of concern on faster machines, but be sure that your airflow management setup is not either sucking external air through the floppy drive, which is worst for it, or blowing out, which is only slightly less bad. Those situations will cause higher rates of dust accumulation inside the drive. I would say it was a thing confined to 300mhz plus builds, but notice some people are building more fans into older stuff to try to keep it alive longer if it's kept cooler, plus use of cases way newer than components which may have it built in.

The situation around 2000ish was that the cases generally available weren't really adequate to the thermal management required for newer CPUs and graphics as we were now trying to get rid of more heat than the cases were intended for. At that time with a K6-2 build I was having a struggle keeping a system cool and it was sucking gunk into the drives, in that scenario I found one of those drive bay intake fans, generally considered "useless" to be a solution, as it relieved the suction through the drive area.

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