okay. I have the software version of redguard and the glidos version of redguard. on the software version, the game has ingame music. on glidos, it doesnt. I dont know if this should go in vdms or what, its just that I like the redguard music and the software version is ugly. how can i get sound to play?
I do have the cd in the drive
I don't know. Do you need the CD in the drive to get music in the software version?
well, you need the cd in the software version. its redbook I think, but you need the cd to watch movies in the 3dfx version right?
Try bunging the attached version of Glide2x.ovl into your Glidos folder. It has Glidos redbook handling disabled.
Indeed, the ingame music is redbook... and I didn't even notice there were audio tracks on the disc 😜
I gave a try to this OVL and wow, the world is full of music now! And the music volume setting works perfectly in the options menu - which is not the case with TR (CD volume stays at max, no matter what the setting). Great stuff.
For information, I'm using SAPUCDEX as my default CD driver.
im sorry, I dont really know what to do. could you walkme through it?
wrote:Indeed, the ingame music is redbook... and I didn't even notice there were audio tracks on the disc 😜
I gave a try to this OVL and wow, the world is full of music now! And the music volume setting works perfectly in the options menu - which is not the case with TR (CD volume stays at max, no matter what the setting). Great stuff.
For information, I'm using SAPUCDEX as my default CD driver.
This is strange! What I have done in this new ovl file is to disable the code in Glidos that makes the background CD sounds of TR work on Windows XP. You seem to be implying that TR is still working. Are you using Windows 98? Or is it maybe that SAPUCDEX makes TR's CD audio work?
wrote:im sorry, I dont really know what to do. could you walkme through it?
Click on the attachment above, which will cause the file to download to your computer. Probably best to download it to your desktop. Then double click the downloaded file, and hopefully it will open up like a folder (assuming you have something like WInZip or PowerArchiver installed). Inside the opened up archive you will see a file Glide2x.ovl. You need to copy that to your Glidos folder (which is probably C:\\Program Files\Glidos)
Paul
You seem to be implying that TR is still working.
Indeed! I decided to give it a try after noticing that the sound volume setting was working in Redguard with this OVL version. No luck as far as the volume setting was concerned, but the audio CD worked nevertheless as usual.
Oh, I'm running Win2K SP3.
wrote:Oh, I'm running Win2K SP3.
With SAPUCDEX?
Yes.
Hmmm, so do I strip out my crabby redbook emulation from Glidos, and ask if I can distribute SAPUCDEX with Glidos?
Probably easiest to make my emualtion controlled by a glidos.ini line so that it can be used for TR1 and not other games.
I wanted to be sure of my results, so I conducted some little tests with your 'disabled' glide2x.ovl.
1. Tomb Raider
- mscdexnt -> no audio.
- sapucdex -> audio OK (no volume control).
2. Redguard
- mscdexnt -> no audio.
- sapucdex -> audio OK (volume control OK).
I can't be certain it would behave the same for everyone, but from my personal experience I would definitely recommend the use of SAPUCDEX (even in it's current beta state).
I would be curious to know whether the volume control issue is a TR issue or a SAPUCDEX issue.
Anyhow, SAPUCDEX is a bit more than "beta" - most problems it doesn't fix are caused by Windows or the application.
If Paul wants to figure out the TR issue, ask Sapu for the source. It is open-source, although the source has not been released here.
Also, a bug report on the SAPUCDEX thread might be worth it - I think Sapu has subscribed to the thread.
The lack of audio in Redgurad with Glidos isn't a bug in SAPUCDEX (if you were suggesting that, which you may well not have been). The problem is that Glidos's redbook emulation takes over from SAPUCDEX, and doesn't do such a good job. Glidos's redbook emulation is very rudimentary.
what I had to do didnt work.... it had some side effects..... now my virtua cop 2 has the redguard theme song! its really strange. Im gonna try downloading it agian, but it didnt work
Why exactly is it that Glidos handles CD emulation at all? I would think it would be better to leave it to other utilities like SAPUCDEX, or at least let the user choose to use an external tool?
wrote:Why exactly is it that Glidos handles CD emulation at all? I would think it would be better to leave it to other utilities like SAPUCDEX, or at least let the user choose to use an external tool?
Because SAPUCDEX didn't exist back when I looked at sorting out the problem with TR1.
Even now, for people that just want to use Glidos with TR1, it is easier if I leave in my emulation. People don't want a list of things to install.
wrote:what I had to do didnt work.... it had some side effects..... now my virtua cop 2 has the redguard theme song! its really strange. Im gonna try downloading it agian, but it didnt work
Presumably that is because Virtua Cop 2 also uses redbook, and you haven't swapped CDs.
Originally posted by HunterZ Why exactly is it that Glidos handles CD emulation at all?
Originally posted by Glidos Because SAPUCDEX didn't exist back when I looked at sorting out the problem with TR1.
...and also because the results for SAPUCDEX aren't consistent yet.
It plays the title theme for TombRaider just fine for me, but everything else just endlessly loops after two seconds of play...
