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First post, by llm

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hello

does anyone know the stub format
of rtm32 (i think turbo c dos extender)

i want to extract the le/or pe part
and think that stub32 is added before the program

i've found several tools for dos/4gw based games but non for rtm32

any docs around?

Reply 2 of 8, by llm

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>rtm16/rtm32 is the runtime module of the
>borland compilers (turbo/borland c/pascal)

that is also my info - i was a little bit irritated due to the
fact that several game-folder i looked at got an rtm32 AND dos4/gw inside
(even the original frontier first encounters demo got both - but only uses the rtm32)

>What exactly do you intend to do?

find a way to get rid of the extender (for ease disassembling)
i've found an solution in dos32 - there is a utility that help me extracting the LE part of dos4/gws, and can also extract the PE part of rtm32 based games (its more like stripping because dos32 dos not really knows the rtm32 format)

it would be nice to have an document or code which describes the extender part of rtm32(16)

Reply 4 of 8, by wd

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i was a little bit irritated due to the fact that several game-folder i looked at got an rtm32 AND dos4/gw inside
(even the original frontier first encounters demo got both - but only uses the rtm32)

Could be one of the additional programs (setup/installer) uses dos4gw.

find a way to get rid of the extender (for ease disassembling)

Don't know anything like that, if you're lucky IDA or something similar is capable
of detecting the extender and moves the entry point to the application one.

would be also very good to have a list of rtm32 using games
then i can use them as a analyse base

Jazz Jackrabbit should be one of them, but pmode borland games may be rare.

Reply 5 of 8, by DosFreak

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I have the following listed as "Custom" on my list. (Never bothered to identify the extender when I went through them years ago).

Apache
Beneath A Steel Sky
Comanche Maximum Overkill
Fourth Generation
Jazz Jackrabbit
Pirates Gold
Space Nightmare
Tyrian
Ancient Domains of Mystery

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