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They still make new 4:3 screens.

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First post, by d1stortion

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Eizo of course. S2100 21" 1600x1200, measly MSRP of about $1000 😀
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Reply 1 of 52, by leileilol

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Not sure if photo or clipart

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Reply 3 of 52, by sliderider

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Probably for medical or industrial use.

Reply 4 of 52, by mr_bigmouth_502

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That's a lot for a display with only a slightly higher resolution than what I have. 😜 Still would be nice to have though

Reply 5 of 52, by DonutKing

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We bought some 19" 4:3 LCD screens from Dell just last year. They definitely still make them, just under a couple of hundred each.

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Reply 6 of 52, by d1stortion

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sliderider wrote:

Probably for medical or industrial use.

Marketed just as a regular business screen on their site. The only business I would do with this is Quake II in maximum res business 😁 (impossible with 1080p screens)

Reply 7 of 52, by eL_PuSHeR

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Cool. I really hate those 16:9 16:10 aspect ratios. Anyway $1000 is a bit overpriced for my taste.

Reply 8 of 52, by d1stortion

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I like the widescreens, but I hate how they now make up for like 99% of the market. If at least full 8-bit IPS panels would be mainstream by now!

Reply 9 of 52, by eL_PuSHeR

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My main source of frustation is the lack of enough vertical lines unless you set those screens using an almost hard to see insane native resolution.

I remember my old 4:3 19" monitor. It could do nice crisp 1280x1024 native resolution. I have a bigger 16:9 monitor at work and the vertical resolution is smaller than 768 pixels. If I increase the resolution I can't see a damn thing and no, I do not want to use text scaling bigger than 100%. Some apps look real ugly.

Reply 10 of 52, by d1stortion

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I'm sure you can't find these so frequently anymore simply because you can get a 24" 1080p for dirt cheap now that has slightly more vertical resolution than the old 19"ers as well. I wonder who bought these low-res widescreens anyway, only remember people advising against them.

Btw, 1280x1024 is 5:4, not 100% optimal for old games as well

Reply 11 of 52, by tayyare

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1.6 x 1.2 pixels per dollar?

No thanks... 😏

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Reply 12 of 52, by PowerPie5000

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d1stortion wrote:

I like the widescreens, but I hate how they now make up for like 99% of the market. If at least full 8-bit IPS panels would be mainstream by now!

IPS panels are great for colour accuracy and wide viewing angles, but they're still not perfect for hardcore gamers just yet (usually higher input lag, slower pixel response times and overly aggressive AG coating when compared to most TN panels). I use an LG IPS screen and the picture quality is brilliant! It does ok with games, but gaming is not the best scenario for it (although some people who don't have keen eyes will say it's perfectly fine for gaming).

What i'd like is a 27" 8-bit IPS panel with a 1 or 2ms response time, low input lag (or none at all if possible), light AG coating and 120hz refresh rate 😀. I wouldn't touch a wide gamut 10-bit or 12-bit panel when it comes to gaming.

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Reply 13 of 52, by d1stortion

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PowerPie5000 wrote:

What i'd like is a 27" 8-bit IPS panel with a 1 or 2ms response time, low input lag (or none at all if possible), light AG coating and 120hz refresh rate 😀

You and me both, that would be an adequate CRT replacement at last. For decent prices of course. 😀 Right now it's either 120Hz but TN, or IPS/PVA but only 60Hz. PVA is supposed to be even better than IPS in most respects btw (the Eizo S2100 is PVA too) but is said to be not ideal for gamers due to high response times.

I'll perhaps eventually get something like an Eizo FS2333 if no significant changes happen in the market.

Reply 14 of 52, by laxdragon

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A quick look at NewEgg.com shows quite a few 4:3 monitors. This one in particular caught my eye.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It … N82E16824254103
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Reply 15 of 52, by d1stortion

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1280 x 1024 5ms

It's 5:4, not 4:3. I don't think a lot of 1280x960 monitors exist (if any), only the really old 1024x768 or high-end 1600x1200s like the one I posted... Also some beastly 2048x1536 CRTs do exist 😀

Reply 16 of 52, by PowerPie5000

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d1stortion wrote:
PowerPie5000 wrote:

What i'd like is a 27" 8-bit IPS panel with a 1 or 2ms response time, low input lag (or none at all if possible), light AG coating and 120hz refresh rate 😀

You and me both, that would be an adequate CRT replacement at last. For decent prices of course. 😀 Right now it's either 120Hz but TN, or IPS/PVA but only 60Hz. PVA is supposed to be even better than IPS in most respects btw (the Eizo S2100 is PVA too) but is said to be not ideal for gamers due to high response times.

I'll perhaps eventually get something like an Eizo FS2333 if no significant changes happen in the market.

TN panels are not too bad these days, they've come a long way. Our PC in the living room uses a cheap 24" AOC TN panel and i was surprised at how wide the viewing angles are... The colour is not as good as my IPS screen, but it still looks fairly decent after a bit of tweaking. The pixel response time is noticeably better than my IPS screen when playing fast paced games.

I'd probably have no issues replacing my current LG IPS with a decent 120Hz TN screen 😀.

Reply 17 of 52, by Svenne

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I guess this is good for retro gamers who can't find space for a CRT, but why the hell does a 21" monitor cost $1000?! Is the case made out of carbon fiber or something?

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Reply 18 of 52, by jwt27

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d1stortion wrote:

Also some beastly 2048x1536 CRTs do exist 😀

reading your post on one here 😀

Reply 19 of 52, by d1stortion

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If it was only about the space. A lot of CRTs are starting to deteriorate by now.

As for the price, Eizo is pretty known for expensive monitors. At least they used a PVA panel for this model, other manufacturers would just stick to standard TN junk and sell it for the same price 😜