Are you talking about the original Windows 95?

Windows 95 OSR2 will work with Daemon Tools 3.47.

Daemon Tools 3.47 user on my 9x builds. Everything works, as long as you have the source of the ISO mounted (eg. don't remove a USB stick that has a mounted iso inside).

I believe Jorpho is already aware about Daemontools working, he just wants to know if WinArchiver is also working.

I had the impression that DT 3.47 was somehow obscure or undesirable. Perhaps I was mistaken.

Jorpho wrote:

I had the impression that DT 3.47 was somehow obscure or undesirable.

i remember having bluescreen issues at win9x startup with DT 3.47,
not sure why its happend but i remember it was solved when I roll back (safe mode, uninstal DT) to DT 3.46.
I unable replicate the same issues on other win9x box.

Joey_sw wrote:

i remember having bluescreen issues at win9x startup with DT 3.47,

This happens when you don't dimount an image from a removable device and when Daemon Tools loads at startup, tries to mount it again and doesn't find it.
Daemon tools is super stable if your behavior against it is gentle. And remember to do a reboot before changing the... millionth ISO in the same Windows session. 😉

Is there any win9x compatible virtual drive software than can read all "red book" audio games ?
IIRC I was able to get audio from Screamer Rally with DT once but not from Shadow Warrior, Quake 2 and the others... 😒
I always use VCD, it work flawlessly but games that use audio tracks won't play music at all. 😵
Last time I checked there was a trick with editing the cue file or that kind of thing to redirect audio data,
but heck I prefer to put the CD in the drive to play than that 🤣

darksheer wrote:

Is there any win9x compatible virtual drive software than can read all "red book" audio games ?

There's no reason any particular software should work for one redbook audio game but not another, at least in Win9x. (Win2k/XP and later is a different matter.)

Last time I checked there was a trick with editing the cue file or that kind of thing to redirect audio data

If you have one .BIN file and one .CUE file, then there is no need for such editing.

Daemon Tools 3.47 will not work with WinME. It always hangs at startup.

I've found that 3.44 works just fine though 😀. It's always good to have alternatives, thanks Jorpho!

I use this one as well:
http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-history.htm

Jorpho wrote:

There's no reason any particular software should work for one redbook audio game but not another, at least in Win9x. (Win2k/XP a […]
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darksheer wrote:

Is there any win9x compatible virtual drive software than can read all "red book" audio games ?

There's no reason any particular software should work for one redbook audio game but not another, at least in Win9x. (Win2k/XP and later is a different matter.)

Last time I checked there was a trick with editing the cue file or that kind of thing to redirect audio data

If you have one .BIN file and one .CUE file, then there is no need for such editing.

Just tried to mount the cue files of those games and apparently I can't (years ago I tried imaginig with ImgBurn/DT or Clone CD and the result was the same => no audio and the culprit seems to be something wrong in the cue file), if I'm not wrong it should work and only play audio tracks ? 😵
The only plausible way SR was running fine at that time would be that it was not one of my IMG 🤣

Maybe the cue file contains paths, just edit them out

Yes, that is one instance in which it is necessary to edit the .cue file. (And of course if the .cue file originally came with a bunch of MP3s or OGGs, there's no way to get music without them.)

Another try... VCD with Windows 7 don't want to read my cue files, in Win95 it does read it but not audio/tracks listing. 😒
DT with Windows 7 and Win95 can read my cue files and seem to show and play audio/tracks fine with media player, but no ingame music 😵
Virtual drive is set to D: Windows audio CD default drive also set to D: Analog audio activated via DT and AWE64 Direct Sound driver selected 😐
Only ingame difference between VCD and DT under Win95 is that it run faster with VCD (instantly remember why I was using VCD all this time) 🤣
Games tried so far : Screamer Rally, Shadow Warrior and Quake 2.

Quake 2 cue :

1FILE "Quake_2.img" BINARY
2   TRACK 1 MODE1/2352
3   INDEX 1 00:00:00
4   TRACK 2 AUDIO
5   INDEX 1 40:35:10
6   TRACK 3 AUDIO
7   INDEX 1 44:05:72
8   TRACK 4 AUDIO
9   INDEX 1 46:25:49
10   TRACK 5 AUDIO
11   INDEX 1 48:59:58
12   TRACK 6 AUDIO
13   INDEX 1 51:53:19
14   TRACK 7 AUDIO
15   INDEX 1 54:30:11
16   TRACK 8 AUDIO
17   INDEX 1 58:07:23
18   TRACK 9 AUDIO
19   INDEX 1 61:13:39
20   TRACK 10 AUDIO
21   INDEX 1 63:51:32
22   TRACK 11 AUDIO
23   INDEX 1 65:53:355

Screamer Rally cue :

1FILE "SRALLY.BIN" BINARY
2  TRACK 01 MODE1/2352
3    INDEX 01 00:00:00
4  TRACK 02 AUDIO
5    PREGAP 00:02:00
6    INDEX 00 18:14:46
7    INDEX 01 18:14:47
8  TRACK 03 AUDIO
9    INDEX 00 22:38:42
10    INDEX 01 22:40:41
11  TRACK 04 AUDIO
12    INDEX 00 26:41:50
13    INDEX 01 26:43:49
14  TRACK 05 AUDIO
15    INDEX 00 30:56:58
16    INDEX 01 30:58:57
17  TRACK 06 AUDIO
18    INDEX 00 35:09:27
19    INDEX 01 35:11:26
20  TRACK 07 AUDIO
21    INDEX 00 38:06:34
22    INDEX 01 38:08:33
23  TRACK 08 AUDIO
24    INDEX 00 42:26:71
25    INDEX 01 42:28:70
26  TRACK 09 AUDIO
27    INDEX 00 47:05:48
28    INDEX 01 47:07:47

It could be a Direct Sound issue for Screamer Rally and Shadow Warrior (because they are DOS games after all) , but Quake 2 should be ok 😕
I'm pretty sure that I was able to play SR ingame music with DT under Win95 some years ago, but maybe with a different sound card (probably a SB PCI)...
Anyway, even if I get things work with DT I would prefer to use the cd to play (it's damn too CPU intensive for a PMMX) 😵