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First post, by RacoonRider

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Just a few weeks ago I checked out support.toshiba.com and they had at least two BIOS versions and some software for Libretto 50CT, 70CT, 100/110CT. Unfortunately, they don't have them anymore:

before: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search? … n&ct=clnk&gl=ru
now: http://support.toshiba.com/support/modelHome? … Text=1073769619

Does anybody have these files? I don't want to risk using filthy sites like driverguide. Specifically, I'm looking for Libretto 70CT BIOS v.6.20, v6.40 and the set of original utilities. However, if anybody has BIOS for other Librettos, it would make a great addition for the driver library.

Reply 1 of 14, by HighTreason

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Noted the other day that support for the Satellite 410 was gone too. I will soon mirror the 410CDT files I still have on my FTP, I do not have any of the ones for the Libretto, perhaps the file names can be found in the HTML of the cached page and looked for on FileWatcher or Google.

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Reply 2 of 14, by RacoonRider

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Turns out, local toshiba websites still have some stuff:
Latest BIOS versions: http://www.toshiba.co.uk/innovation/download_ … .jsp?service=UK
Drivers: http://www.toshiba.co.uk/innovation/download_ … .jsp?service=UK

Product type: Archived files
Family:Libretto
Series:1xx or x0

I still need BIOS v6.20 though 🙁

Reply 3 of 14, by leileilol

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Similarly I noticed AMD dropped a lot of Athlon X2 support stuff 🙁

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Reply 4 of 14, by raymangold

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Always archive vintage files from machines that you commonly use / are interested in. Vintage files like that won't stay on the internet forever, especially if you want to jump forward 20 years from now-- how even more scarce a lot of this will become.

I've already performed a mass archive of many websites. One good piece of software is HTTRACK: http://www.httrack.com/

Reply 5 of 14, by alexanrs

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Well, someone (with upload permissions) could salvage all that is left on local Toshiba sites and upload to Vogonsdrivers.

Reply 6 of 14, by candle_86

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thats why all my drivers are now in one drive and microsoft is upset they let me have unlimited space

Reply 7 of 14, by shamino

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Whenever I download drivers or installers for anything I own, I keep the files archived. However, this can still be a problem when I get something new and it's support pages are already gone.
It wasn't long ago that I needed to grab drivers from Toshiba's site for a particular model Pentium-75MHz laptop that I had picked up from Goodwill. I was glad they were still there.
It's kind of annoying that stuff like this is being deleted. Storage is cheaper than ever, and the files in question for old obsolete devices will almost by definition be small by modern standards. They don't need to "maintain" the current trendy look for that part of the web site, just throw them into an FTP directory or something.

raymangold wrote:

I've already performed a mass archive of many websites. One good piece of software is HTTRACK: http://www.httrack.com/

The few times I've used httrack, I'm always paranoid that a site admin or even some automated server script is going to take offense and IP ban me. I've read some stories about that happening. The default downloading settings are so aggressive that it worries me, so I always end up configuring it to be much, much slower. I have no idea what level of abuse actually gets an admin's attention though, and I don't think asking them directly would go over well. I figure staying below the radar is best.

I've had difficulty getting it configured to crawl a site just as I intend, without missing important sections or files but also without trying to archive the entire internet. I've had to do a lot of trial and error on that, and I almost always find flaws with my attempts, but at some point I settle for "good enough".

I had one quite large mirror project that thankfully had a straightforward site structure but lots of large files. I think it took over a month, and it still didn't quite finish before a power outage cut it short. That's the downside of trying to be inoffensively slow I guess. Sadly httrack is pretty broken when it comes to supposedly being able to resume an incomplete mirror. It doesn't really work as far as I can tell.

To the extent that I can tame it and get it to do what I actually want it to do, it's an awesome tool though. It's just really tricky and intimidating to get it set up right, and I find it requires a dedicated machine with no particular timeframe for completion, and a lot of patience for starting over when I screw something up. But when it goes right, the end result can be amazing.

A few years ago I mirrored a few motherboard manufacturer support sites, but I missed important files in some of those.
The oldest "mirror" I have is a set of CDs that I got mailed from Intel. It's a copy of some portions of their web site from 1998. Recently I looked at it trying to find high quality motherboard pictures, but they weren't high quality at all. It was 1998, the age of dialup.

Reply 8 of 14, by Stiletto

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If you're going to be mirroring websites, you at the very least need to learn how to use wget. It's a command-line tool, originally for Linux, and there's Windows command-line ports available.

Better yet, you can go join the community known as archiveteam.

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Reply 9 of 14, by RacoonRider

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raymangold wrote:

The few times I've used httrack, I'm always paranoid that a site admin or even some automated server script is going to take offense and IP ban me. I've read some stories about that happening. The default downloading settings are so aggressive that it worries me, so I always end up configuring it to be much, much slower. I have no idea what level of abuse actually gets an admin's attention though, and I don't think asking them directly would go over well. I figure staying below the radar is best.

I've been using httrack since the day I got my hands on my first Atom netbook. It was more "book" than "net": most places in Omsk didn't have any kind of internet, so I ended up downloading literture websites/libraries. Then I switched to backing up static retro websites like red hill hardware.

Never got banned by IP btw... I find the default settings very slow and I always tune them up. Httrack will either download the website in a matter of hours or CTD with memory overflow 😁 I remember downloading from elhvb.com at 10MB/s. No one seemed to mind 😀 If Edwin is reading me, thank you and please don't be angry 😀

Reply 11 of 14, by Arctic

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I think I will buy more Toshiba products in the future 😀

Reply 12 of 14, by chinny22

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Since last year or so a lot of old hardware/software is disappearing from web sites. Stuff that's been around for decades. I'm blaming the fact that everything is being redesigned portable devices and guess it makes things cheaper/easier to not bother with out of date stuff. Even a lot of the old Microsoft stuff has gone like browsers.

I also have a copy of anything I download and use but its the stuff I'm getting now is the problem

Reply 13 of 14, by MAZter

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Collection of some Libretto 100CT drivers/tools/pdfs etc. was posted at this german forum.

If anyone need it, I uploaded mirror here

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Reply 14 of 14, by Thermalwrong

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Sorry for bumping a very old thread, but Dynabook / Toshiba have now from around January 2025 onwards, removed support for older models from their database.
While you can still select lots of these old models like the Tecra 8000 for instance, it's not possible to select the OS and on the other driver pages it just says "No Drivers Available". Before this since around 2023, the pages worked but attempting to download the file would result in a 404 error and it's been necessary to use the Wayback Machine to get those files.

This means the Dynabook website no longer has driver files for everything before the Windows Vista era, Vista & Windows 7 era Toshiba laptops still seems to be supported, for now. The meta data of what driver file is for which laptop is also lost for quite a few of these laptops, particularly the Pentium III to Pentium-M era.

The drivers were archived here long ago, which links this very thread: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Toshiba_Support
But they didn't archive the index pages and it's all in WARC files so not so easy to use, and since it was archived via brute force number guessing, lots of the pages in that archive are just "page not found" errors. But I do think that project allowed many of the driver files themselves to be archived in the wayback machine and elsewhere.
Previously I've made my own driver archive from the Toshiba.ca website that was also in the wayback machine. It was static content and I updated all the links to make it portable, which is now 7GB on my hard drive but I've got no way to host it. And I've been working on getting the json metadata for the driver files from archived pages from the Toshiba and Dynabook sites. Neither of these is available for download or use yet 😒

Recently though I discovered that jamesfw on the Internet Archive has recreated per-laptop zip files with meaningfully named driver files and knowledgebase articles, which covers a lot of the era now missing on the live web. You can find that here: https://archive.org/details/toshibalaptopdrivers
This looks like it took a lot of work and seems complete for lots of models, so check it out if you need drivers for your Toshiba laptop - to use it click on "SHOW ALL" under the DOWNLOAD OPTIONS, find your model in the list and either download the zip file or click "View Contents" to find and download individual files.