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First post, by computergeek92

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When were MFM hard drives no longer produced? What would the latest PC to use one without bottlenecks be? Something like a 386SX 16? And what was the highest capacity MFM hard drive? Thanks.

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Reply 1 of 8, by CelGen

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Between 1985 and 1988 was the real transition period where MFM drives began to step aside for SCSI and 8-bit IDE interfaces (and ESDI briefly for a few other vendors). Nobody was making MFM by the 90's.
Highest capacity MFM drive I have ever seen was 160mb and it's the full-height Maxtor beast that resides in my MicroVAX 2000 right now.

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Reply 2 of 8, by konc

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Nowhere near the 386's (IDE was already the standard), they were intended for XT's so I'd bet on the first crippled 286 IBM's

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Nobody was making MFM by the 90's.

Second that...

Reply 5 of 8, by computergeek92

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Just saw an IBM PS/2 386DX 16 with MFM drives.

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Reply 6 of 8, by CelGen

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Yeah, but IBM did not support it for long.

IBM quickly dropped ST-506 in favour of ESDI in later model variants, and it wasn't even offered in the Model 70. Logically, the BIOS support for the ST-506 controller was removed in later board variants (20 MHz and up): You can configure the controller, but noone will access it...so leave the ST-506 controller in a 16 MHz machine.

I don't doubt that there was a few stragglers using MFM in the 386 era.

Ultrix or VMS?

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Reply 7 of 8, by vmunix

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CelGen wrote:
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Yeah, but IBM did not support it for long.

IBM quickly dropped ST-506 in favour of ESDI in later model variants, and it wasn't even offered in the Model 70. Logically, the BIOS support for the ST-506 controller was removed in later board variants (20 MHz and up): You can configure the controller, but noone will access it...so leave the ST-506 controller in a 16 MHz machine.

I don't doubt that there was a few stragglers using MFM in the 386 era.

Ultrix or VMS?

Ultrix.

wow, you must be older than me. But it's a good thing.. 😜

Some years ago a couple of brand new looking Vax stations slipped from me at an auction, but was lucky to grab a pair of DEC3000, one was still unopened in its wrapping and everything, I keep it as a treasure though my intention is one day learn VMS, I had enough of tru64 in my life and UNIX in general. I do not live in North America or Europe so this kind of hardware is very rare.

Sorry for derailing the thread a bit.

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