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Good Pentium 3 Board with ISA and Tualatin Support?

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First post, by MrEWhite

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The title pretty much. I need a Pentium 3 board that supports Tualatin and ISA. Any recommendations?

Reply 5 of 119, by tayyare

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Reply 6 of 119, by ODwilly

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If you do not already have a Tualatin cpu on hand I would recommend a standard Socket 370 board and one of the pin-modded Tualatin's from the South Korean ebay seller.

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Reply 7 of 119, by Tetrium

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MrEWhite wrote:

The title pretty much. I need a Pentium 3 board that supports Tualatin and ISA. Any recommendations?

In addition to what's been written in the previous posts, search for s370 boards that use a chipset that supports ISA slots (theres the VIA 694T. The 694X doesn't support Tualatin natively). Theres I think a few more that support Tualatin and ISA, but I only know of this VIA chipset from top of my head.

This here might be a good place to start searching http://www.motherboard.cz/via.htm
It's a bit messy, but you can quickly search for boards using the 694T northbridge, but you'll still have to check every single board to see if it actually has any ISA slots (the fact that the chipset supports ISA doesn't automatically mean it will actually have one).

I think there was also a VIA s370 Tualatin DDR chipset, but last that I recall very few boards using this chipset and with ISA slots were actually made. I think most of them were server boards using 2 or more CPU sockets?

I don't remember if anyone actually made a list of all boards with these features.

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Reply 10 of 119, by ODwilly

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Depends, how are the caps looking, is it being sold as fully functional or AS-IS untested? Does it come with any extra ram, expansion cards, heatsink? The extras are nice but not necessary but for that much I would want it to have at least visually good caps and tested to boot to the bios. In any case that looks like a good motherboard. some people have complaints against the VIA Socket 370 chipsets but once you get to know some of the quirks they are great in my experience 😀

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Reply 11 of 119, by ODwilly

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Sorry to double post, but it looks like according to Badcaps that Gigabyte used G-Luxon and Choyo caps on the GA-6VTXE that are pretty much garbage. A recap would be a good idea if you do get that Gigabyte board.

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Reply 13 of 119, by firage

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440BX is basically it if you want an Intel chipset with ISA. Some of them have Tualatin modified BIOS's available, pin mod required.

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Reply 14 of 119, by ODwilly

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Caps look good. If nothing else if they start to bulge or have issues later on you could always pay to have it recapped 😀

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Reply 15 of 119, by alexanrs

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firage wrote:

440BX is basically it if you want an Intel chipset with ISA. Some of them have Tualatin modified BIOS's available, pin mod required.

Beware the OCed AGP bus.
I'd favour VIA boards.... something like an ASUS CUV4X + pinmodded Tually should be fine.

Reply 16 of 119, by PCBONEZ

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Tetrium wrote:

I think there was also a VIA s370 Tualatin DDR chipset, but last that I recall very few boards using this chipset and with ISA slots were actually made.

I've seen some skt 370 DDR boards (even dual CPU) but none that I recall had ISA.

There was also a little known P3-DDR chipset: CLE266 (VT8623 + VT8235). Those didn't have ISA either.
http://www.viatech.com/en/silicon/legacy/chipsets/cle266/
They usually came with a soldered on C3 of some kind but a rare few had a socket 370 ZIFF.

There is also the VIA Apollo PLE133T which does do Tualatin and have ISA. http://www.viatech.com/en/silicon/legacy/chipsets/ple133t/
I've had several of these on FIC FR33E variants. FR33E with the ISA slot actually populated are tough to find though.
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Reply 17 of 119, by PCBONEZ

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ODwilly wrote:

Sorry to double post, but it looks like according to Badcaps that Gigabyte used G-Luxon and Choyo caps on the GA-6VTXE that are pretty much garbage. A recap would be a good idea if you do get that Gigabyte board.

During the time that board was new about the only way you were going to get good caps was buy Intel, Supermicro or Dell - or just get really freakin' lucky.
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Also during that time the caps installed varied from one production run to another.
I've seen same revision boards that had 4 or 5 different assortments of caps on them.
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Reply 18 of 119, by ODwilly

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^+1 PCBONEZ. With Socket 370 and Socket A especially you should just assume that caps are garbage and need replaced. I lucked out and 2/3 of my socket 370 boards use high quality caps. One is Dell and the other is an Asus board.

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Reply 19 of 119, by kanecvr

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Funny enough all my Asus boards needed a recap. Except for a tx97-e. No one brand has good caps over another. For example - I have a couple of Abit NF7-S boards. One used samxon caps and needed recapping. The other used panasonic and some other brand and did not require recapping.