Intel486dx33 wrote on 2020-11-30, 22:32:
Apple devices have built in security and are part of the Applepay eco-system.
They dont want un-authorized people messing with there hardware.
Also Apple is a brand name that wants quality control over there products.
Of course, you don't actually believe what you wrote, but just for the sake of discussion, let's think about this for a second. First of all, the simple fact that it's an Apple product doesn't make it more secure than anybody else's. Security is an incredibly difficult area, and Apple makes mistakes, just like everybody else (see the reports about the T2 chip, for a recent example). The simple fact that I may replace a battery in an Apple-branded device will not make it any more or less secure than it was before the repair job, and other than having proprietary tools that Apple refuses to share (for now), their technicians are no more capable of doing the job than I or many others here.
Next, the second they accept my money and hand me the device and receipt indicating that I have paid for it in full, they cease to have any authority over said device; they designed it, but it is my hardware from that time forward. If they want to retain full control, they can keep it, and I will keep my money. Let's see how Mr. Cook convinces the board and shareholders that that is the right approach when their profits start to drop.
Intel486dx33 wrote on 2020-11-30, 22:32:
I can see Apples argument that there devices are like a credit card reader at the local store and they dont want people to tamper with it.
Its about security on the Apple devices.
Now this is utter nonsense. A credit card terminal is a regulated, secured device that, most often, is leased by payment processors to businesses, not sold (can they be purchased for legal business use in any areas?). Unless Apple wants to be subject to the same regulations, this is not the comparison to make. You can't install arbitrary, user-selected software on a credit card terminal or ATM, and everything has to get the proper regulatory approvals.
Part of the reason I am so supportive of stringent regulation of availability of repair parts and tools at reasonable prices is that Apple has been shown to be dishonest. In at least one case, hidden-camera footage that was later on the national news showed one of their store technicians telling a customer that his laptop had been exposed to liquid and it would cost thousands to repair. Of course, the decision this so-called technician wanted the customer to believe he had made himself is that it was better to buy a new machine. When they consulted with someone more reputable, it was found to be a problem with the flex cable for the display, as has been discussed in these forums previously. Total cost to repair: under $100. So was the technician a liar, incompetent or both?
When you have "technicians" that have sales targets to meet, the company makes the case for right to repair all by themselves. The only real questions are: "what is taking so long?!" and "why aren't more coutries adopting such laws?".
We wouldn't stand for such nonsense in other areas. Imagine having to go to a GM- or Volkswagen-approved re-filling station, because they were the only ones with the custom tool to open the fuel port. Then, they would fill the tank with their own proprietary fuel formulation, and update the vehicle's blockchain-based and cryptographically-signed service records to enable it to start again. Then, you get to pay for the privilege. This is what owning a vehicle Apple-style would look like, and most people wouldn't go anywhere near that. Why do we let Apple and company get away with it?