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First post, by Jackhead

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I started another build. Parts all ordered waiting to get my hands on.
So i want to build a perfect system around the Voodoo 5500 for Win98SE Gaming.
Goal is able to play all the holy 3dfx Games like Deus Ex in 3dfx Glide with 1600x1200 Resolution.
Im still not sure this will be possible at all, or better sayed on what fps..

Anyway after doing some research i choose the follow components. System will be run only Win98SE, so i dont need HT.
Feel free if you think i can add or change something.

Mainboard: Asus P4S533-E (AGP 3,3V compatible)
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 SL6PG 3,06 GHz, 533, socket 478( cooled with Scythe Mugen 2 Rev B PCGH Edition)
GPU: 3dfx Voodoo 5500 AGP 64MB 3,3V
RAM: Corsair 2x 256MB XMS CL2 ( CMX256A-3200C2 DDR400)
OS: Windows 98SE
SATA: Samsung SSD 120GB on Promise FastTrak S150 SX4 PCI (256MB)
Screen: Asus 24" L PA248QV 1920x1200 IPS 75Hz
Audio: SB Audigy 2 ZS Gold

Pictures follow soon i start with

Last edited by Jackhead on 2021-07-21, 16:49. Edited 2 times in total.

Reply 2 of 10, by The Serpent Rider

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Wth SIS chipset, any common DDR400 memory from reliable brand will do, since it will work just fine at DDR333 speed on CL2 timings.

SB Audigy 2 ZS Gold

Might as well install Aureal Vortex 2 for A3D 2.0 support in Win9x environment.

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Open up your hate, and let it flow into me

Reply 5 of 10, by greasemonkey90s

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Sis 645/dx unofficially supports ddr400. With the same board i managed 192/384 i was overclocking a pentium-b/533 2.8 and 3.06. The secret sauce to a sis645/dx is to run a high multi p4-a/400fsb and try to stay before 133fsb/533. Because for some reason when you use 533 fsb that memory divider it uses tends to take a hit somewhat in bandwidth i noticed. Like it loosens up the timing/sub timings. These were my findings like with a p4-533 i managed mid 2800mb/s scores in mem. I still think the key is pentium 4-a.

Reply 6 of 10, by Jackhead

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thats one point i choose this corsair RAM. i read a benchmark from tomshardware where exact this ram was one of few able to run ddr400 with cl2 . It was also the fastest ram on benchs. I will see when the parts arrive.

Reply 7 of 10, by chinny22

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Real nice build
The Vortex 2 will give you A3d 2.0 and but only gives you EAX 1.0 (or 2.0 if you use driver version 2.048)
For EAX 3.0 and above you'll need a Creative card but this will only give you A3D 1.0 your 2 ZS is the best choice on this side of things.
Neither card is that great and emulating the others technology.

Ends up been a case of pick your poison.
Not my list but this shows each games support
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SyOw7D0H2 … kI-gVTpyhc/edit

Reply 8 of 10, by Jackhead

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chinny22 wrote on Today, 09:36:
Real nice build The Vortex 2 will give you A3d 2.0 and but only gives you EAX 1.0 (or 2.0 if you use driver version 2.048) For E […]
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Real nice build
The Vortex 2 will give you A3d 2.0 and but only gives you EAX 1.0 (or 2.0 if you use driver version 2.048)
For EAX 3.0 and above you'll need a Creative card but this will only give you A3D 1.0 your 2 ZS is the best choice on this side of things.
Neither card is that great and emulating the others technology.

Ends up been a case of pick your poison.
Not my list but this shows each games support
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SyOw7D0H2 … kI-gVTpyhc/edit

Thanks for the Info. Is it no possible to use the mx300 and the 2ZS in one system?

Today i got the Asus TFT. First tests with My Dos rig:

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70Hz with IPS on Dos

Reply 9 of 10, by darry

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Jackhead wrote on Today, 11:41:
Today i got the Asus TFT. First tests with My Dos maschine: […]
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Today i got the Asus TFT. First tests with My Dos maschine:

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70Hz with IPS on Dos

Sorry if this sounds like nitpicking, but the points below are worth knowing about, IMHO. However, they may not bother you, in part or at all.

a)
70Hz input support, at least over VGA, is a given for backwards compatibility reasons, however not all monitor actually display 70Hz (frameskip) and not necessarily on all inputs (VGA vs HDMI). AFAIU, your monitor is capable of up to 75Hz ( both input and display), at least over HDMI .

b)
That monitor does not have a 4:3 mode that works for 640x400 (320x200 line doubled by VGA card), so most VGA DOS games will be stretched horizontally.

c)
Are you bothered by the fact this monitor, like practically all TFTs, samples 640x400 (320x200 line doubled by VGA card) ? An example of the effect of this can be seen in the uneven with of the lettering on Doom's HUD (bottom right).

If point a) is an issue (might not be, might not bother you if it is), an OSSC can address it.
Point c) can also be fixed by an OSSC .

Point b) is not fixable by an OSSC. An Extron RGB DVI 300 (or its HDMI version) will fix b) and c) but will force 60Hz, add a little latency and not be as sharp as an OSSC

See Re: Purchasing a 4:3 LCD for DOS/DOSBOX/MISTER/OSSC games? for more info on that monitor

Reply 10 of 10, by Jackhead

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Good points. Yes i will try it with an ossc. I tryed serval 4:3 TFTs but i dont like old used Panels any more. My Dell ultrasharp 2007FP dies after 2 month, ok unlucky. Than i bought new old stock HP LP2065 4:3. The panel was damaged after delivery, more unlucky.. Anyway the Panel is more for the win98se build here focus on 1600x1200. I can live with the borders than.