I am confused. The motherboard has IDE. The HD manual says IDE. why need a SATA to IDE adapter ? What am I missing.....

i need the adapter to use a sata solid state drive on an ide motherboard.

How large is the SSD attached to this adapter ? Have you considered attaching each drive to a different IDE port, even temporarily for testing?

You could try this one https://www.startech.com/en-be/hdd/ide2sat2 .
It has a marvell chip.

mtest001 wrote on 2024-02-09, 09:51:

How large is the SSD attached to this adapter ? Have you considered attaching each drive to a different IDE port, even temporarily for testing?

128gb. everything works fine when run as a single device on the ide channel, but i need to run 4 devices.

weedeewee wrote on 2024-02-09, 10:06:

You could try this one https://www.startech.com/en-be/hdd/ide2sat2 .
It has a marvell chip.

that device is 10x the cost of the chinese counterparts. do you know that it will work in the configuration i want on a via kt133a board? i might splurge on the cost (also 3x the cost of the sata drive) if i had some confidence the adapter would work, but then i have to think it might be more cost effective to just add a pci ide/sata controller and deal with the extra clutter (or just not use sata at all).

I have the same "noname" adaptor which I bought online... download/file.php?id=178460. In my case it works fine with a 128 GB SSD Verbatim Vi550. Currently it's installed as a slave with a CD-ROM as master.

I understand sometimes those adapters can be picky on the SATA side, have you tried different drives ?

>i just picked up 1 of these

peel the sticker to see what chip is on yours

i got the other adapter off aliexpress and, initially, the behavior was identical to the first adapter so i thought i was screwed. when the adapter is configured as master, both drives are detected after a long delay and only the master device is accessible; however, when the adapter is configured as slave (in the same position on the ide cable) the system posts normally and both drives are accessible. all bios settings were set back to the auto defaults.

I don't know about others experience but I found the cheap ones to be extremely picky and only use them on an ide channel all by themselves and they work fine. Trying to use the as slave and master with other drives has never worked well for me.

I have heard the star tech ones are much much better but I don't own one so can't confirm.

Had the same issue as OP with a very similar looking adapter just a few days ago when upgrading an iMac G3, which has the CD drive on the same channel. Binned it and used one of these instead, works perfectly despite being very cheap. So far has worked in everything but a single machine (some ancient Toshiba Satellite, which didn't like anything else either, no other SATA adapters, no CF, nothing).

elszgensa, I recall having issues with dma mode with one of those in a two drive setup with the second drive being a dvdrom. So I went with slightly more expensive ones
Seems like the current price of €4.91 is lower than the 6.21, 6.19 & 9.98 I payed for them a few years ago.

elszgensa wrote on 2024-02-27, 15:29:

Had the same issue as OP with a very similar looking adapter just a few days ago when upgrading an iMac G3, which has the CD drive on the same channel. Binned it and used one of these instead, works perfectly despite being very cheap. So far has worked in everything but a single machine (some ancient Toshiba Satellite, which didn't like anything else either, no other SATA adapters, no CF, nothing).

Gosh one of the pins is badly bent on that picture. That alone would have discouraged me from buying it !

Even native IDE stuff doesn't play nice together sometimes.
Consider it part of the experience and try different pairings with all 4 devices for the best compromise or swap out for something different.

I personally run the first adapter in the original post (the smaller one with insulating foam) on a dual 370 based MSI 694D Pro-AR w/ a Raptor 74GB. It works fine - a bit slow but not very noticeable unless Vista or 7 is used - XP will run more than happy on the drive.
Just don't install anything else on the same channel where the adapter is installed.

If your config consists of:

- 2x PATA HDDs (I count the SATA drive as PATA since it's adapted already)
- ODD

Then you'd want the adapted SATA drive to be ALONE on one channel (be it Primary or Secondary) and have the DVD drive cable share its slave port with the Deskstar 180GXP.
Don't use CS as I've usually had trouble using CS with HDDs connected. Just configure the DVD drive as master, the 180GXP as slave, and the SATA HDD alone on the other channel.

What chip does your SATA-IDE adapter use? If it's SunPlus then you're going to have serious issues with it, particularly with HDD/SSD.

For JM20330 you can use a multimeter to see if the slave/master jumper actually leads to pin 33 (MSSEL) of the bridge chip. That pin determines whether it runs as Master or Slave, so if the jumper does lead to that pin it should in theory work unless there's something wrong with the other pins that either pulls it high or low.

On the other hand, check if BIOS reports "no 80 conductor cable installed", as it'll drag the entire channel (both master and slave) to UDMA2 if it is the case. Either the cable or the adapter might be causing it. For the adapter, you can connect IDE pins 30 and 34 with a wire to work around it. Your board (VT82C686B) should theoretically support UDMA5.

both aliexpress adapters work just fine alone on the ide channel and the bios recognizes when the jumper is switched master or slave. my motherboard will complain during post about a 40 conductor cable if an adapter isn't designed for udma66+ so there's no problem there (as i had with basic cf adapters). ultimately, here is what i got working only with the wider adapter:

primary ide:
end connector - toshiba sata ssd, slave
middle connector - deskstar 180gxp, master

secondary ide:
end connector - nec 16x burner, cable select
middle connector - deskstar 180gxp, cable select

i dual boot win98se & q4os (debian) off the toshiba ssd. i'm a little underwhelmed by the sata adapter speed so far, but i have transferred 70gb+ from an external drive with no problems.