Re: What retro hardware you killed today or in the past :(. Killing spree stories+serial killers are welcome.Rest in pie

Posted on 2021-05-08, 02:13

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by CelGen

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Had a floptical drive for a Silicon Graphics Iris Indigo that wouldn't read floppies. To test if it was the special Teac-chipset SCSI to floppy bridge or not I haphazardly plugged it into another machine with SCSI but didn't observe pin 1. Fried it. I've never seen a SCSI device fry like that before …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-05-03, 13:42

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by CelGen

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in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I just had a look and can't see this version of the board listed on UH19. The closest I could find (searching for 85C461 chipset, 486SV2) is the VL/ISA-486SV2 Rev 1.72: http://www.win3x.org/uh19/motherboard/show/821 but that has no photo to compare with. You took a good photo right at the top of …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-05-02, 22:58

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by CelGen

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maybe that particulare '151 is faulty after all. I really dislike desoldering stuff from mobos, because sometimes the old traces/vias get damaged and there's even more stuff to fix, but with no other tools and ideas I would try to desolder this '151, and the other one that has IRQ12 connected to it …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-05-02, 17:15

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by CelGen

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Oh well. Let's dig deeper into this. See if /E input of the '151 (pin 7) is connected to chipset or tied to GND permanently. It is tied to ground. est inputs S0,S1,S2 (pins 11,10,9), you should see them toggling. All the time actually to properly scan all inputs, unless this chipset is "smart" and …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-05-02, 00:02

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by CelGen

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DRQ0, 1, 2 and 3 all run to the same chip (U8) and not to the chipset directly. U8 is a SN74F151BN 8-Input Multiplexer : -DRQ0 to pin 15 -DRQ1 to pin 14 -DRQ2 to pin 13 -DRQ3 to pin 12 I pretty quickly had a Sound Blaster Pro 2 available so I threw that in and ran TEST-SBP. The digitized sound test …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-05-01, 21:40

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by CelGen

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in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

That I can tell, A B and C never go low A connects to 183, B connects to 182 and C connects to 181. pins 4 and 6 remain high while 5 remains low. One thing also I have not checked yet is if DRQ2 is actually reaching the chipset. I've only probed from the ISA bus. That would go to pin 149 in one way …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-05-01, 19:33

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by CelGen

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U24 is a 74LS138N 3-line to 8-line decoder. Okay so if I'm reading that right, DRQ2 is the floppy controller sending a DMA request to the chipset ("Mr 85C461 can I plz use DMA channel #2?"). The chipset responds back with DACK2 ("Yes device, you can use DMA channel #2 until I say stop.") If I'm …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-05-01, 17:59

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by CelGen

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So I double checked to see if the scope was fast enough to trigger and display activity on DACK2 using the test board and yes I can see it pull low on floppy boot (and I just discovered that the vertical adjustment on channel 1 has stopped working so I'm only able to watch one pin at a time using …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-05-01, 16:44

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by CelGen

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in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I'm sure this has already been covered, but on the controller card, does it have IDE ports with anything plugged in to them, and do they work correctly (this should test whether anything can get data across the bus from that particular card)? Can you post a photo of the card? It does and every time …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-05-01, 03:33

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by CelGen

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Do you know if those DREQ and IRQ jumpers change anything? They don't seem to change anything at all when moved around. n IMD, does the capital 'Z' at the top of the screen (where it says fwRZd) change to lower case if you move the heads off of track 0 (try pressing '+' to go up one track and '4' …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-04-29, 00:47

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by CelGen

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in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

[edit bad phrasing here] One differences I spotted is the hard wired link for 1x CPU multiplier on JP1 down by the BIOS chip. It's currently wired as 2-3, which the silkscreen says is 1x and the dosdays listing shows as 2x. What does IMD http://dunfield.classiccmp.org/img/index.htm do on either the …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-04-28, 01:44

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by CelGen

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What happens if you try to format a floppy, with no command line switches? Does it say what capacity it's going to try before failing? Had an odd case on another thread where the BIOS menus had the correct settings, but the registers ended up with the drive as a 360k 5.25". It will format as 1.44mb …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-04-27, 13:41

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by CelGen

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I'm not using a CF card. I'm using a DOM. Anyways for the purpose of testing the entire IDE ribbon cable is unplugged and only one floppy drive is attached and configured in the BIOS.

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-04-27, 01:45

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by CelGen

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I am not positive by any stretch that this is the correct BIOS for this revision board. I do not have an EPROM image to burn and compare against. So I remembered that I have a POST card that latches indicators when IRQ's and DMA's are triggered and after verifying that I should see IRQ6 and DMA 2 …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-04-27, 00:36

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by CelGen

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in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Not that I can identify. So I beeped out DRQ2 and DACK2 and they both seem to be intact spanning across the bus. DRQ2 originates from U8 pin 13 (74F151BN) and DACK2 comes from U24 pin 13 (74LS138N) and both chips seem to have their inputs all beep through to the 85C461, except for Z̅ on the 151. I'm …

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-04-26, 23:54

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by CelGen

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in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Try a different I/O card. I've tried five different cards. It might sound silly since you have tried the floppy cables I've change the cables twice. The drive, cables and controller are tested working.

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Re: 486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-04-26, 04:28

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by CelGen

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Good news I guess, I opened Procomm and setup my serial tester in loopback mode and even at the highest baudrate both ports worked fine. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a166/ballsandy/IMG_8349.JPG Here's a photo of the board. *Go here and right-click to view the full-size image* Aside from a …

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486 will not boot from floppy; will not read from floppy either

Posted on 2021-04-25, 22:53

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by CelGen

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I put together an ASUS ISA-486SV2 Rev. 3.1 motherboard with a Trident VLB video card, PRIME 2 chipset disk and I/O ISA controller with a 66mhz DX2 and I can't make it work with the floppy drives. Put a bootable floppy in and while it will light the drive and spin the motor it will just sit there …

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Re: games that are better on a Macintosh

Posted on 2021-04-01, 00:23

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by CelGen

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Huh. I had no idea there was ever a 20th anniversary release. Nevermind then.

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Re: the signs that a forum is dying

Posted on 2021-03-11, 04:32

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by CelGen

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Every forum I've been on that died, died because the all consuming leviathan of politics finally visited it. Sounds like you've been on some forums with fairly dramatic downfalls! it's true that in forums where the dominant form of discussion is 'political', should 1 side 'win' by taking control, …

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