Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-15, 00:54

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The Serpent Rider wrote on 2023-07-11, 07:06: No, both require free third-party utilities to set SATA mod manually. Can't thank you enough for your insights, don't mind if I don't do a "Thanks!" post for every one of your gems! Like this one 😀

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Re: 478 vs 775 insurrection

Posted on 2023-07-14, 14:07

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TrashPanda wrote on 2023-07-14, 12:47: You could indeed cook steak on them .. even seen videos of it being done, and weak VRMs did have issues with the Pentium D CPUs. Would a modern cooler ala Scythe Mugen 1/2 s478 handle these monsters? And maybe some ghetto small coolers and/or small heatsinks …

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Re: 478 vs 775 insurrection

Posted on 2023-07-13, 11:43

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they where not glued together , 1 PCB , 2 dies (worked like dual Xeon 604) 90nm Pentium D were actually glued together. Your second picture is a die shot of the Smithfield core. It also has additional data bus to poke neighbors L2 cache. I'm still a bit confused how'd these use the shared FSB, but …

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Re: 478 vs 775 insurrection

Posted on 2023-07-12, 23:06

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ediflorianUS wrote on 2023-07-11, 10:21: Thanks. By early, do you mean "before they got Service Packs and better support" or "early programs didn't run as good per se"?

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-11, 01:17

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Thanks for that info VDNKH. The 775Dual VSTA does not appear to be effected by that bug. AGP Texture acceleration is enabled in Dxdiag. 2mg I’ll give rivatuner bootstrapping a shot but I don’t think it will change much. It didn’t change much if I remember, it just gave me different control panel …

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-10, 18:42

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VDNKh wrote on 2023-07-10, 17:05: Thanks for the insights, I've some PT880 mobos so this might be a lifesaver! I've read something here about it's Southbridge counterpart having some issues with IDE/Sata in W98 too, can't seem to find it...

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-09, 20:31

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Any "how-to" on this? Also, which GPUs you running on that? The only chipset driver you should need is the via_hyperion_4in1_v456v.zip on Phils site. It installed everything chipset related. I don't know about LAN and the AC97 audio as I don't use those. I was running the Quadro FX 3000. As other …

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Re: 478 vs 775 insurrection

Posted on 2023-07-09, 20:14

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Slight necro, but can someone ELI5 how did pre-C2D Intels with 2 "cpus glued together" actually handle FSB? Did they share it, aka could one "core"choke the other, or was is 1/2 FSB speed split per "core"?

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-08, 23:14

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I think the PCI-E lanes are through the Southbridge. Edit: I’m wrong on that sorry. You Just need the Via 4 in 1, or was it Hyperion by then? Anyway I made a CD with all the drivers I needed, I’ll check tonight and see what they were. Any "how-to" on this? Also, which GPUs you running on that?

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-07, 15:38

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Nah, like I said, it's an old problem which also occurs on GeForce 4 Ti and probably GeForce 3. RivaTuner allows to fix a bunch of problems with pre-G80 cards. Fair enough in that case Mentioned it in a sense not to get skewed results anyway. I have the 775 Dual Vsta and the PCI-E isn’t full 16x, …

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-07, 13:35

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Another myth: no absolutely no. You will lose compatibility and image quality with them because Nvidia starts cheating with Detonator 4x.xx not with 5x.xx. Compatibility/image quality side is better to use 30.82 or older. Of course with NV3x you are almost obligated to use them but using them like …

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-07, 00:12

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Testing next with the PCX 5750 is definitely the plan as it can slot into the same system, and as you said use the same driver. Then load up 98SE on second drive to test Dx7 on the same system. The second system, a 754 Athlon with a VIA chipset I will test the Quadro FX 3000 and a FX 5700 Ultra. …

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-06, 22:40

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Modded inf 81.98 driver: All games tested with 3d accelerated render path. I wonder if reinstalling windows with just Dx7 would help. I remember reading here that dx8.1 started to break things. You'd be doing, at least to me, a huge favor if you test same things with say Q FX 1300 and then with …

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-06, 13:13

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OTOH I can't seem to find any PCX GPU on eBayou, am I missing something here? They're not common and tend to be misidentified. There's one Leadtek PCX 5750 currently listed by an IT business in Germany, which is the only one I've seen for ages. I bought my EVGA PCX 5750 on Amazon of all places, I …

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-05, 16:30

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Generally, Quadro FX cards are no different to regular GeForce, when it comes to gaming. What about W98 fully supported ones that offer more than GF4Ti? Ala table fog and 40.xx drivers and more FPS? If some from that table I linked fit that description, lemme know! Im afraid of this: https://www. …

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-05, 14:57

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Quadro FX 1000/2000/3000. All and All not a great experience. Thanks! I read this list for a bit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadro#Quadro_FX_(without_CUDA,_OpenCL,_or_Vulkan) . Is it even worth considering them for W98 simply as is , if I get my hands on a faster one instead of FX? Are they all …

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-05, 13:12

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Anything except FX 5700 can work with 45.23, officially or unofficially. 5700 requires 53.xx drivers, because it's a newest chip in the FX lineup, but it's theoretically possible to force older drivers partially, by mismatching some DLLs in installation folder (like I did on GeForce 4 Ti 4200-8x) . …

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Re: PCIE Graphics Card

Posted on 2023-07-03, 00:30

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I need a bit of clarification here: - 45.XX drivers are "best" for W98 games - FX series came with 50.XX+, so this seems like a wrench in the W98 cogs - PCX5xxx also need even newer HSI aware drivers, which even further complicate W98 compatibility So, both AGP and PCIE solutions here seem …

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Re: GeForce 4 vs. GeForce FX?

Posted on 2023-05-29, 17:12

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Dang, I was really hoping to somehow avoid FX series, both due to loudness and heat, eBayoux prices for 5700+ models, the "FX xx50 versions fixed something so get only those", and crappy DX9 perf. OTOH I can always plop GF4MX (there are no Tis for PCI right?) into a PCI slot and FX or GF6 into AGP …

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Re: GeForce 4 vs. GeForce FX?

Posted on 2023-05-29, 13:20

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Slightly offtopic, buy why not skip FX for GF6 series? Seem to work in W98, still in P4 era, support pallete/fog... GeForce 6 series dropped support for paletted textures. It only supports table fog. Also, as others have mentioned, newer drivers that these cards need have compatibility issues with …

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