Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2017-11-16, 17:32

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bjwil1991 wrote: ISA, VLB, PCI, Baby AT, and ATX? I think it's not VLB, but rather some proprietary connector. Otherwise it's not clear where PCI can be attached to: there are no chips on the board.

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Re: What retro activity did you get up to today?

Posted on 2017-09-18, 14:22

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Improving emulation of AIX / PPC. Now the emulator gets to the same point as the real machine (http://tyom.blogspot.de/2017/09/aix-under-qem … -up-to-nfs.html), looking for the install media of AIX 4.2 for Motorola.

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Re: Does anyone still have a S3 Trio 32/64/Virge cards?

Posted on 2017-04-18, 15:13

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Thanks! That's strange though. Have you used the same mainboard in the previous (successful) ROM-less tests? There are chances that there are some different variations of the 375 chip, but having all the 3 cards of one kind seems to be not very probable at least.

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Re: Retro PCI cards in modern motherboards

Posted on 2017-04-18, 15:08

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atar wrote: Ordered an Asmedia 1083 PCIe-> PCI converter. Let's see if it works any better than ITE 8892E. Nope. The S3-Trio64V+ does work with Asmedia and ITE, and S3-Vision864 doesn't.

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Re: Does anyone still have a S3 Trio 32/64/Virge cards?

Posted on 2017-04-11, 15:49

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Quick update: Checked them (375 models) again without ROM chip = black screen. Oops. Are you sure you used the updated floppy and not the initial one? This is surprising. Edit: I've found a second 988 card. :) If you have any use for it, I would donate it to you. Thanks! Will read about it and PM …

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Re: Retro PCI cards in modern motherboards

Posted on 2017-04-06, 20:18

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Added Miro S3-Trio64 (86C764X) to the table - works fine. The 86C764X is closer to 86C765 than to 86C764P: it has the same wake-up sequence, so the ROMs of 764X and 765 are interchangeable (at least the ones I have). The ROMs of 764P and 764X are not (at least the ones I have).

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Re: Retro PCI cards in modern motherboards

Posted on 2017-04-06, 14:52

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I don't see how it makes it an incredibly bad idea. Say, I have just one PCI card to pass through, but if I had more they would have been retro too (after all they are PCI), so giving them to the guest OS does perfectly make sense. YMMV though.

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Re: CP/m machines .... do anybody own or collect ?

Posted on 2017-04-06, 11:08

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Were there CP/m games? The most of games of that period hardly user any OS calls. 30 years ago I played with Yamaha MSX-2 machines which had a built-in CP/M ROM. Still MSX DOS was more popular, and the .com files with games (probably ripped from the cartriges) were mostly for MSX-DOS. I copied some …

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Re: FrankenDOS?

Posted on 2017-04-06, 11:01

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Have you had a chance to test it yet?

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Re: Retro PCI cards in modern motherboards

Posted on 2017-04-06, 10:14

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If anyone does anything like this before I get to it. I'd love to see it. S3-Trio64V+ pass through works with qemu just fine. Actually all the PCI cards which work in my host (see the first post) can be passed through, but I tested the Trio64V+ most extensively. Unfortunately it doesn't quite cut …

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Re: Retro PCI cards in modern motherboards

Posted on 2017-04-05, 20:09

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Ordered an Asmedia 1083 PCIe-> PCI converter. Let's see if it works any better than ITE 8892E.

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Re: Retro PCI cards in modern motherboards

Posted on 2017-04-04, 20:17

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I start to think the PCIe->PCI Bridge may be the problem. My board has the ITE 8892E bridge.

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Re: Retro PCI cards in modern motherboards

Posted on 2017-04-03, 16:22

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I have an old 4-port 8 drive Fastrak EIDE controller in my machine, which I need to take out one of these days as there is no support for Windows 2016, only Windows XP and below. If it works with VT-d motherboards/CPUs, it should be possible to pass it through to a guest OS. But you'll still need …

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Re: Retro PCI cards in modern motherboards

Posted on 2017-04-03, 11:35

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Well, it seems that with PCI cards the passthough is simpler than PCI-e. All the cards I have which work with the C220 motherboard also work in guest. The trick here to find the ones which work on the host. As for QXL - it is indeed a good adapter, but the OS I'm targeting - AIX - doesn't support …

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Re: Retro PCI cards in modern motherboards

Posted on 2017-04-02, 20:00

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Yeah, as you can see in the table the trio64 works both on a 440BX and nForce PCs, so it's definitely working. So, you used in your test a Trio64V+ card which is more modern. The Trio64V+ uses a 86c765 chip, which does work on my Haswell PC too. Do you have a non V+ Trio64 card to test?

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Re: Retro PCI cards in modern motherboards

Posted on 2017-04-02, 19:15

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Don't have the "pci first" option, but I disabled the internal VGA completely: without a PCI card, even if the monitor cable is attached to the built-in VGA, it beeps the no-VGA sequence. The three cards - ATI Rage, S3 ViRGE, Hercules Terminator 64 - work ok with the current settings. And even with …

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Retro PCI cards in modern motherboards

Posted on 2017-04-02, 18:13

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Now I've already seen two PCI VGA cards which don't work on my Haswell motherboard. Both are S3, one is 86C764 based SPEA Mirage and another one is Miro S3 Vision864 (86C864). I wonder there are just problems with the VGA cards, or old PCI cards in general. Is anyone interested in gathering the …

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Re: Does anyone still have a S3 Trio 32/64/Virge cards?

Posted on 2017-04-02, 17:21

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Hi, I've re-checked them with the new image - seems good so far.: S3 ViRGE/DX 86C375 "Daytona 64V 3DX" (PCB=P612 REV:A) = ok S3 ViRGE/DX 86C375 "EON EONTRONICS" (FCC ID: DXL-DP18) = ok S3 ViRGE/DX 86C375 "EON EONTRONICS" (FCC ID: DXL-DP18) = ok (Can't find the fourth card right now, though.) Thank …

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Re: Does anyone still have a S3 Trio 32/64/Virge cards?

Posted on 2017-03-29, 15:31

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S3 ViRGE/DX 86C375 "PowerColor" (PCB="C325DX4 VER 1.0") = reboot S3 ViRGE/DX 86C375 "EON EONTRONICS" (FCC ID: DXL-DP18) = reboot S3 ViRGE/DX 86C375 "EON EONTRONICS" (FCC ID: DXL-DP18) = reboot S3 ViRGE/DX 86C375 "Daytona 64V 3DX" (PCB=P612 REV:A) = reboot, no text after reboot Can you please re- …

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Re: Stealth64 DRAM T VLB Trio64 86c764-P vs. 86c764X

Posted on 2017-03-28, 19:22

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Does it seem unlikely that the X BIOS would work on the -P cards? There are some differences in the chip initialisation routine (aka vga wake-up). If the VGA BIOS is made to support the both chips, it would work with the both of them. Otherwise it looks like they can be programmed in a way …

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