Re: Is there a cheap clamshell available for socket 370-sized CPUs?

Posted on 2021-02-22, 08:41

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by Miphee

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I forgot to mention, you can also put 2 CPUs pins 2 pins in the same (ESD) bag. I try to avoid that at all costs because dropping a soft bag with 2 CPUs inside always ends in disaster unless they are taped together. 1 box 1 CPU for me. These chinese ESD bags just don't have the necessary stiffness …

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Re: Is there a cheap clamshell available for socket 370-sized CPUs?

Posted on 2021-02-21, 10:58

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by Miphee

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It's similar but not the same, the PP lid is very strong and prevents physical damage. The ESD bag is too soft and doesn't offer clam-like protection, it was important to me. Essentially it's the same as your ESD bag but it's size fits the CPU perfectly so it doesn't move around at all.

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Re: Is there a cheap clamshell available for socket 370-sized CPUs?

Posted on 2021-02-21, 10:21

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by Miphee

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Cheap protection for s370-sized CPUs.

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Re: Is there a cheap clamshell available for socket 370-sized CPUs?

Posted on 2021-02-21, 10:19

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Found a cost-effective solution that fits my criteria: - transparent clam-type - protects against pin damage - fits all s370 CPUs - super cheap - easy to make Overall cost of a single homemade clamshell for s370 size CPUs (with safety pin): ¢10 Overall cost of a single homemade clamshell for s370 …

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Re: Is there a cheap clamshell available for socket 370-sized CPUs?

Posted on 2021-02-21, 10:07

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luckybob wrote on 2021-02-19, 18:01: yea, its still a bit high on the price considering, but the solution was 100% effective. I'd certainly buy it if it wasn't overpriced because "for collectors".

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Re: Is there a cheap clamshell available for socket 370-sized CPUs?

Posted on 2021-02-19, 17:05

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Thanks but I've already seen it on sale and it's not cheap either. The problem with these "memory packs", "designed for collectors" is that they are overpriced. Everyone wants their share of the retro business. :D The cheapest I found is ¢49 a piece for this type (comes in a pack of 48). Still $160 …

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Re: Is there a cheap clamshell available for socket 370-sized CPUs?

Posted on 2021-02-19, 13:00

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Thanks guys but these are open trays and I'm looking for clamshell types to protect against dust as well. This is the cheapest I found so far, ¢32 a piece on Aliexpress, jewelry storage boxes. Still a lot of money because you have to buy 500 pcs + shipping.

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Re: Is there a cheap clamshell available for socket 370-sized CPUs?

Posted on 2021-02-18, 18:36

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At a little under a dollar a piece with the ESD foam included (ebay), it is reasonable. It's still too steep for me because I have 92 pcs in that size and still expect to get 254 to complete the collection. That's more than $300 to spend on CPU boxes alone, way too much. Those 775 shells only cost …

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Re: Is there a cheap clamshell available for socket 370-sized CPUs?

Posted on 2021-02-18, 15:39

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I have a few of those chip boxes you have, they are excellent for this purpose! 😀 Too bad they cost $2 a piece.

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Re: Is there a cheap clamshell available for socket 370-sized CPUs?

Posted on 2021-02-18, 15:26

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by Miphee

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Well that's too bad. The american solution is quite good but it costs $90/100 pcs + shipping. The russian version is open and only holds 6 CPUs.

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Is there a cheap clamshell available for socket 370-sized CPUs?

Posted on 2021-02-18, 14:38

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I have quite a lot of CPUs in this size but I can't find anything that is cheap like the 775 cases, sealed tight to prevent damage and transparent to check it without opening it. I've seen a few other types but most of those are not sealed or they are super expensive. 100 pcs of 775 clamshells cost …

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Re: Keep GeForce 4 to cards from dying

Posted on 2021-02-17, 19:12

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Cheapest? I checked the mainboard-sized ESD bags and it costs a lot ($10/10pcs + shipping, (35x40 cm)). I buy 3 boards for $10 so it's not really worth it for me. Right now they are in cardboard boxes separated by sheets of paper. It's free, I get them in shoe stores. I just tested 16 pcs of 775 …

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Re: Keep GeForce 4 to cards from dying

Posted on 2021-02-17, 10:16

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well I felt and saw it happen in real time with my own eyes, idk what more I can tell you not sure if I need lab equipment for that, if you don't believe that go ahead :p I haven't seen it ever and I handle a lot of stuff. But as I mentioned before, I'm only 90% against all that craze that …

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Re: Keep GeForce 4 to cards from dying

Posted on 2021-02-16, 18:20

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bloodem wrote on 2021-02-16, 18:09: Do you have proof? 😁 Blocked because dumb.

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Re: Keep GeForce 4 to cards from dying

Posted on 2021-02-16, 13:09

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Agreed. I'm not 100% against ESD protection, just like 90% against it. :D I simply don't believe that handling a component will damage it in any way and cause it to fail one by one like it happened to OP. I handle mine without any protection because I don't want to make an expensive thing even more …

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Re: Keep GeForce 4 to cards from dying

Posted on 2021-02-16, 12:36

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Not much info there, just a spark going places. Was the hardware under power or not? It just proves that under certain circumstances a device can be killed by ESD when it's not in the protective bag. It doesn't prove that ESD is common or that it can kill a hardware "much later" or that it can …

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Re: Keep GeForce 4 to cards from dying

Posted on 2021-02-16, 11:12

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adalbert wrote on 2021-02-16, 10:57: I lost hardware to ESD twice How did you confirm it was due to ESD?

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Re: Keep GeForce 4 to cards from dying

Posted on 2021-02-16, 11:12

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I also "discharge myself" sometimes but my point stands. A single bag is useless when it's off the hardware and there is nothing that discharges your body. That current has to go somewhere and that will be the hardware you touch if there is no efficient grounding present. The ESD bag is like an RCD …

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Re: Keep GeForce 4 to cards from dying

Posted on 2021-02-16, 09:29

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So ESD is the secret force that can be blamed when something goes bad without an immediately visible reason. Or it's just taken waaaaay too seriously and it's not a real threat with all the chip protections in place since the 1980's. Again, it's all useless unless it's 100% efficient (like in big …

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Re: Keep GeForce 4 to cards from dying

Posted on 2021-02-16, 07:16

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Not ESD, CES. Common Ebay Scam. Those cards were all dead way before you bought them, maybe "repaired" in an oven so they work for another month. When the seller has tested and untested stuff it always means that the "untested" ones didn't work for him. Untested means that he knows that it's shit …

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