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Re: FIXED! [LREQ issue] Weird issue with VLB VGA in second VLB slot on ALi ECS Panda/Daewoo AL486D 386 motherboard

@Horun Excellent point! The vias on this board are exceptionally thin-walled and really do not seem to be that well plated. Opening it up and actually repairing it in that regard might be worth it long-term. The bodge I have going was very hard to solder, but it works...mostly. There's an update …

Re: Weird issue with VLB VGA in second VLB slot on ALi ECS Panda/Daewoo AL486D 386 motherboard

Any ideas as to what this means? The system required a hard reset after this final trace command. In that slot your system hangs on the first access to the graphics card. There are multiple possible explanations to this behaviour: The S3 chip stays passive on the local bus until it is woken up by a …

Re: Weird issue with VLB VGA in second VLB slot on ALi ECS Panda/Daewoo AL486D 386 motherboard

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Re: Weird issue with VLB VGA in second VLB slot on ALi ECS Panda/Daewoo AL486D 386 motherboard

use a zero modem cable, initialize COM1 with mode and redirect DOS' input and output via ctty command (in autoexec.bat) The way to do that is mode com1:9600,n,8,1 ctty com1 You should test these commands with a working graphics card (like your Trident card). To get back to control your computer …

Re: Weird issue with VLB VGA in second VLB slot on ALi ECS Panda/Daewoo AL486D 386 motherboard

wait, i explain "serial debugging": use a zero modem cable, initialize COM1 with mode and redirect DOS' input and output via ctty command (in autoexec.bat) use a serial console on a laptop nearby, like every hacker does ^_^ OH! This makes so much sense. Thank you @Disruptor. I’ve done this many …

Re: Weird issue with VLB VGA in second VLB slot on ALi ECS Panda/Daewoo AL486D 386 motherboard

The best way to debug the issue without a monochrome card is to set up serial debugging. Pull the ROM from the VL card (you need to do that anyway to prevent the POST to lock up, even with an MDA installed), ignore the beep code that there is no valid graphics card. Have the BIOS image in a file, …

Re: Weird issue with VLB VGA in second VLB slot on ALi ECS Panda/Daewoo AL486D 386 motherboard

Potentially a dumb question: Do you (or does anyone) know if there’s a book/manual/datasheet somewhere that describes VLB VGA initialization routines? I’m wondering if it’s an issue at a step right before the BIOS ROM is read. Basically you can boot from a monochrome graphics card and initialise …

Re: Weird issue with VLB VGA in second VLB slot on ALi ECS Panda/Daewoo AL486D 386 motherboard

On a local bus VGA card all the communication with its BIOS runs through the ISA part of the card. This makes sense, and I kind of figured that by looking at the traces on my Trio64. I guess the issue lies elsewhere then? Maybe in a ready signal of some kind or perhaps in a case where there’s one …

Re: 3 (+3 more) retro battle stations

My pleasure! :) I have had trouble procuring an SXL2-50, so these have made do in the meanwhile. I hope to find an SXL2-50 in PGA132 someday. The SXL PGA168 interposer has of course added lots of variety to the mix, however! Interesting! I wonder why it is that the MR-BIOS is more limited FSB-wise. …

[Seemingly Fixed! LREQ issue] Weird issue with VLB VGA in second VLB slot on ALi ECS Panda/Daewoo AL486D 386 motherboard

Hello all! I've been messing with this Daewoo AL486D, Revision 1.1 motherboard, which came out of a Leading Edge PC I own. I took the motherboard out the case for testing and noticed something quite odd: The VLB slot farthest from the CPU, at the bottom of the board, seems not to work with a VLB VGA …

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