Re: quick p4 question

Posted on 2024-02-16, 13:53

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by ElectroSoldier

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From what I understand the early OSs like 2k and XP they didnt see a P4 HT as a one CPU with two cores but as two seperate CPUs. They both use a "per socket" licence, and if you put a quad core CPU into Win2k it will only see the first 2 CPUs (0,1) , Ive had Win2k on a dual xeon quad core and it …

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Re: quick p4 question

Posted on 2024-02-16, 11:08

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by ElectroSoldier

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Not quite but its a decent start. Win98 is single threaded, while it can run multiple processes at once but each process can run one thread of execution. A P4 HT is one core that can run two threads at once, so the second thread will not be used as it will never try to run two of them. Win98 might …

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Re: quick p4 question

Posted on 2024-02-16, 06:46

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by ElectroSoldier

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I believe the first Hyper Threading Pentium 4 was the 3.06HT 533 (SL6S5), the 2.8GHz 533 was none HT. Its a very capable CPU for Windows 98. Windows 98 was pretty much dead by the time the P4 2.8/533/512 was released, using it for Windows 98 would put a lot of power in a Windows 98 PC, it wasnt done …

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Re: Rarest CPUs?

Posted on 2024-02-15, 18:58

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by ElectroSoldier

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The last of any particular line is usually hard to find because not many people can afford them and then they get replaced

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Re: Duel Pentium 3 MB stuck at verifying DMI Pool

Posted on 2024-02-13, 18:49

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by ElectroSoldier

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Try booting with only CPU RAM and video. Nothing else plugged into the board at all No IDE etc

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-12, 14:58

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by ElectroSoldier

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When it comes to computers, I disagree. Things move much faster in the PC world. 10-15 years is sometimes (but not allways) sufficient time for hardware and software to become archaic, as such, it could kind of be considered "vintage". Case and point - 8088 to 486/pentium - that period started in …

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Re: Quantum Fireball 1.2GB SCSI prices

Posted on 2024-02-12, 14:50

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by ElectroSoldier

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Make sure it has a returns policy. If you cant return it dont touch it.

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-11, 01:37

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by ElectroSoldier

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None of the Socket 939 CPUs have instructions to support OS beyond Windows 7. Which wasn't the first time (Slot A/early Socket A lack of SSE) or the last (Phenom II lack of proper SSE4.1) time it happened with AMD platform. This one in particular isn't critical though, because running on Windows 10 …

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-10, 14:57

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by ElectroSoldier

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None of the Socket 939 CPUs have instructions to support OS beyond Windows 7. Which wasn't the first time (Slot A/early Socket A lack of SSE) or the last (Phenom II lack of proper SSE4.1) time it happened with AMD platform. This one in particular isn't critical though, because running on Windows 10 …

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-09, 16:54

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by ElectroSoldier

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Much better then LGA775. In essence, an AM2 motherboard can run anything from a single core athlon/sempron to a quad core Phenom. AM2+ motherboards can run some AM3 chips, like the Athlon II and Phenom II. Majority of AM2 mobos weren't capable of working with anything but Athlon 64. Some ASUS and …

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-09, 02:29

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by ElectroSoldier

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It feeling retro doesnt change what it is though. I ran XP on a dual X5365 system for a while... It doesnt matter if it was XP or Vista though, now it is what it is and it isnt retro to me, its original, not a remake version pretending to be old. I have a dual PIII 1400 system that isnt retro to me …

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-08, 22:58

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by ElectroSoldier

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Much better then LGA775. In essence, an AM2 motherboard can run anything from a single core athlon/sempron to a quad core Phenom. AM2+ motherboards can run some AM3 chips, like the Athlon II and Phenom II. An then there are odd-ball regular AM2 boards that can run both AM2 and AM3 chips, despite …

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-08, 18:37

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by ElectroSoldier

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Much better then LGA775. In essence, an AM2 motherboard can run anything from a single core athlon/sempron to a quad core Phenom. AM2+ motherboards can run some AM3 chips, like the Athlon II and Phenom II. An then there are odd-ball regular AM2 boards that can run both AM2 and AM3 chips, despite …

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-08, 14:21

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by ElectroSoldier

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My vote would be LGA775, but AM2 is a decent contender as well, IF you include AM2+ in the mix. It ranges from single core Semprons to hexa core Phenoms, and that's a serious performance bump. What's the motherboard support like for AM2? (....) Is AM2 better in that regard? How new a CPU can you …

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-07, 23:54

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by ElectroSoldier

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Fastest launch CPU for socket 5 was a Pentium 90. Slot 1 it was in actuality the 266 which was available to go from launch date. I think I said that already... I think the last was the 1.1GHz but the CPU was recalled due to instability so making the 1Ghz the last CPU for slot 1. FC-PGA2 is an …

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-07, 16:06

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by ElectroSoldier

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Slot 2 is interesting as a contender. Its raw numbers would be a 100% performance increase from the PIII 500 to the PIII 1000.

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-07, 02:20

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by ElectroSoldier

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Except you cant run a PIII-s 1400 in a PPGA socket 370 because its FC-PGA. You can modify it of course, but then its not the same. But then you have to get that pedantic with all of them, Slot 1 launched on a 440FX board, that chipset and volt reg ain't running a 1Ghz PIII, the launch socket 478 …

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Re: Are retro towers really now $150-300?

Posted on 2024-02-07, 02:00

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by ElectroSoldier

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Yeah pretty much. People have got wise to the retro computing craze that the like of Philscomputerlab has made popular on yourtube.

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-07, 01:49

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by ElectroSoldier

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Except you cant run a PIII-s 1400 in a PPGA socket 370 because its FC-PGA. You can modify it of course, but then its not the same.

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Re: What vintage CPU socket saw the biggest increase in CPU horsepower from release to retirement?

Posted on 2024-02-06, 17:08

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by ElectroSoldier

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I think the clue is in the title of the thread. SkullTrail is powerful but its also power hungry. It nearly doubles my power usuage when I turn it on. Cant believe I used it as long as I did without realising just how much power it was using.

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