Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-11-06, 01:23

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I found it, linked right here on Vogons: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=45116 The 5.2 is the magic one - my hunch is that the 6.2 probably works fine on AGP versions of the 9250, but not the PCI version. 2,288 score in 3D Mark 2001. Jane's now runs, though it CTDs when I try to change …

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-11-05, 14:08

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I took out the 256 and put in a 128 Infineon PC133, and it posted and booted into Win98 with no issue. I tried installing Jane's WW-2 fighters (the only game I have on hand) and it CTD the same as 3D Mark 2001. This morning I found an older driver 4.14 (I had been running 6.2); that changed the …

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Re: SY-5EMA+ CMOS fuse?

Posted on 2019-11-03, 16:17

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As it turns out, correlation doesn't equal cause and effect. I pulled the board out of the case and began poking around with my meter, and I couldn't find 3 volts anywhere. I finally checked across the posts where the CMOS battery holder comes through the PCB, and had no voltage there! It turned out …

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-11-03, 16:08

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When I try to run 3D Mark2001, it crashes to the desktop when attempting to run the first test. Same happens when you try to run the demo. Little doubt that it's a driver issue, but with the ATI 9250 you really don't have much choice in drivers. There might be a patch out there somewhere that would …

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Re: Is the risk from static damage overblown?

Posted on 2019-11-03, 00:59

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The real issue is how do you know? How do you know if that flaky motherboard might not be that way because you were a little careless? Behavior that you can get away with sometimes might get you into trouble at others. When the humidity is so low that you cannot pet your cat without both of you …

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-11-02, 22:43

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I upgraded to DirectX 9C in an effort to get 3D Mark 2001 to run. I downloaded a Windows Security updates disk that a member here had uploaded that updates Win98 to IE6, Media Player 9, DirectX 9B etc., and have been running that after the fresh install, as it's as close as you can get to going to …

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-11-02, 05:16

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I tried swapping back in the pair of generic PC100 sticks for the 512 PC133 and it would lock up when booting to Win98! I tried slowing the memory timings, but no dice, so I then tried a 256 stick of PC100 from the stash, and everything worked fine. Maybe it's the memory, or maybe this board is …

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-11-01, 13:08

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I don't think I've tried a single stick of 512 MB. You're at 83 MHz? Is XP OK with the 512 MB stick? I had a pair of 128 meg sticks in it originally, and I swapped them for the single stick when I was trying to get it to work with my original installation of Windows 98. It made no difference, so I …

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-11-01, 02:57

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Leaving it as it was, I popped another hard drive in it and reinstalled Win98. And it runs fine. I guess removing the TAG RAM after installing 98 caused some sort of issue? While web surfing on my primary computer, I've been running 3D Mark 2000 over and over, with no issue, score is in the 2,000+ …

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Re: best mb from epox, qdi, abit and dfi

Posted on 2019-10-31, 23:03

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A personal favorite of mine was the Epox 8K3A+. I was able to push mine up to 215 MHz FSB, but I finally settled on 209 because the out of spec PCI bus began slowing down my hard drive speed at anything past 209. I only moved on to an Nforce 2 because the 8K3A+ developed bulging capacitors.

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-10-31, 15:31

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I left Memtest86 running overnight with the bus set to 83 MHz, no errors. I have not done the POS hack, maybe that's the difference? If I had a pair of 128 meg EDO SIMMs on hand, I'd be happy to do the comparison, but I only have 48 megs total on hand.

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-10-31, 04:10

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feipoa wrote: Your CPU-Z image doesn't show that there is any onboard L2 cache. Did you remove the TAG RAM? For some reason, I thought you had kept the L2 cache enabled. Yeah I had to remove it.

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-10-31, 04:09

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Are you going to try 83 MHz? Do you also have a K6-III+? Does Windows update know to remove updates that require SSE? Or do you know which updates not to install which require SSE? A few years back when I went to update, shortly after updates required SSE, the system would no longer boot up. I'm …

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-10-31, 01:07

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Anyway, I've had fun with it, and I would never have thought this board could work at all with a K6-2+ (or known of the undocumented jumper settings, or found the Jan Steunebrink BIOS) if not for your posts on this message board, so thanks. And that VRM does get hot (even with the 233 MMX), I'll …

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-10-31, 00:43

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How did you finish installing all Windows XP updates? There are hundreds of them and it took my system more than 2 days. I have a Team group 120 megabyte SSD connected to a Promise ATA controller card with a SATA to IDE adapter, so that probably sped things up a bit. It still took over an hour to …

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Re: I recently found this hardware, AKA the Dumpster find thread.

Posted on 2019-10-30, 23:03

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I also scored an HP 8300. I5 3470, no memory, no video card, no hard drive, but the DVD drive was still there. It also had a Windows 10 key sticker on the top. I had been planning on using a G41 775 motherboard I had for the gaming computer I'm giving my cousin, so this was a big upgrade (Q 9505 to …

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Re: I recently found this hardware, AKA the Dumpster find thread.

Posted on 2019-10-30, 22:45

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Pickings from the overflow pile in front of the local E waste have been very good lately. I scored this and gave it to my cousin - an HP Pavilion 27xi monitor. https://i.imgur.com/KZx7QC8.jpg?1 I almost passed it up, but then I decided it was worth trying out. It uses an external power supply, and …

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-10-30, 22:30

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If you think its stable, try installing XP and running all the XP updates. LOL! For 256 MB of SDRAM to really be stable, you'd have to run it at 400 MHz. Or use 72-pin RAM. This is my experience anyway. It appears stable at first, but takes time to really narrow it down. Changing the TAG won't help …

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-10-29, 12:42

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Thanks for replying. The system is working fine @ 450 MHz with 256 megs of SDRAM, but I still have the TAG installed, and it won't even post when set to 83 MHz FSB. So my question was if you thought it might be possible that the issue is that the TAG chip itself is too slow for anything over 75 MHz …

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Re: mb-8500ttd manual needed

Posted on 2019-10-29, 05:17

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I have attached the Jan Steunebrink BIOS patch for Cyrix 4x, AMD K6-2, AMD K6-2+, AMD K6-III, AMD K6-III+, and 128 GB HDD support and all BIOSes I have for this board. See BIOS.txt in the zip file. When using Jan's BIOS, I recall that one or both of system/video BIOS cacheable had to be disabled. I …

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