Re: Bad socket 370 CPU?

Posted on 2023-03-14, 19:19

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I would actually rather suspect it being an ESD damage the 1GHz wasn't that overclocking friendly AFAIK. And actually, the only actual damages due to long term overclocking, I remember having heard of, is electromigration or "sudden Northwood dead syndrome" ... Interesting ... I've now installed …

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Re: Fan restoration on early 2000's graphics cards

Posted on 2023-03-14, 16:08

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I ended up adding a Zalman VF700-Cu on my GF4 but for the geforce 2 GTS i took the passive square heatsink of a geforce 4 MX applied it on the GF2 and then added a custom 50mm fan to it. I bought a very similar one for my Radeon 9800 Pro. It didn't help much since that card died after a year anyway …

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Re: Fan restoration on early 2000's graphics cards

Posted on 2023-03-14, 12:48

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Update: the 50mm works perfectly on the GeForce 4 Ti 4200 heatsink. Amusingly I'm not actually using the screws to screw into anything but by using three screws in the right place I added enough tension so that the fan is very snugly stuck to the heatsink without actually being screwed into anything …

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Re: Fan restoration on early 2000's graphics cards

Posted on 2023-03-14, 11:42

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I ended up adding a Zalman VF700-Cu on my GF4 but for the geforce 2 GTS i took the passive square heatsink of a geforce 4 MX applied it on the GF2 and then added a custom 50mm fan to it. I bought a very similar one for my Radeon 9800 Pro. It didn't help much since that card died after a year anyway …

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Re: Fan restoration on early 2000's graphics cards

Posted on 2023-03-14, 07:51

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- I assume that despite most of these fans being "inside" the heatsinks, mounting a superior modern fan on top instead of inside wouldn't harm the cooling aspect that much? Those fans inside the heatsink are rather small and don't move a lot of air, so any modern fan you mount on top will move …

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Re: Bad socket 370 CPU?

Posted on 2023-03-14, 07:48

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Older Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool runs on XP, might be worth a try. If its not daft it should test all instructions and processor modules. That's interesting to know - for now I'll be returning the first CPU since the second is very stable so far. After 5-6 hours of gaming & ripping CDs I've …

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Re: Bad socket 370 CPU?

Posted on 2023-03-14, 07:46

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Interesting. That proves that something's wrong with the first one. Puzzles me though, how it can run so much, and still be defective I've never known an Intel CPU of that era to fail but because the Pentium III was known to be easy to OC, it's possible someone went a little overboard and damaged …

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Re: Fan restoration on early 2000's graphics cards

Posted on 2023-03-11, 21:05

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I have recently been discovering the merits of a flood and soak method, that is when fans seem too tight that a drop of oil won't get them moving, just load them up and leave them sitting for a while, let it soak in. Often the original lube has gone very gummy with age and heat, needs a while to …

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Re: Fan restoration on early 2000's graphics cards

Posted on 2023-03-11, 21:04

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- these fans could be lubed to run smoothly again but there's not many tutorials on how to open a fan without breaking it. I actually broke a fin trying to dismantle one yesterday (luckily it was an old dud I was practising on). Is it even worth doing? Pixel Pipes has a video where he cleans and …

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Fan restoration on early 2000's graphics cards

Posted on 2023-03-11, 09:22

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You know what I mean: every darn card had a non-standard fan or even several with weird heatsinks and those fans were tiny and even back then were noisy. Now every single card I touch makes so much noise it's unbearable. Ideally I'd like to "fix" these old fans, the alternative being just removing …

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Re: Bad socket 370 CPU?

Posted on 2023-03-10, 16:18

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Another update: my second 1Ghz CPU (exact same model) arrived and ... zero issues so far. I've done a 3D Mark 99 bench and no crashes. I'll be installing Windows XP tonight and will be swapping my Voodoo 3 over with a GeForce 4 Ti 4200. I forgot I already had a Voodoo 3 3000 in my Pentium II 333 so …

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Re: Bad socket 370 CPU?

Posted on 2023-03-09, 18:25

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SL5QJ is Coppermine-T, so you should check compatibility with your motherboard if going down that road ... Yeah I read about that but found several articles & posts (also on Vogons) that basically said any motherboard that supports Coppermine would support Coppermine-T. I'll wait till the other CPU …

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Re: Bad socket 370 CPU?

Posted on 2023-03-09, 17:27

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So ... I decided to check another way to see if my motherboard is to blame or not. I took my 800mhz CPU, changed the voltage to 1,75V and overclocked it to 1Ghz. And ... surprise surprise, it's stable as a rock. I've done 4x 3D Mark 99 benchmarks so far without a single crash. Oddly enough the …

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Re: Nvidia Quadro4 750 XGL for Windows 98 SE gaming?

Posted on 2023-03-09, 11:19

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I have a Quadro 700 and I made a thread about the issue I had: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=85359 Thanks - I think I know what your problem was by the way. These cards were often shipped with workstations from Dell or HP and the BIOS on these cards were specifically designed for …

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Re: Bad socket 370 CPU?

Posted on 2023-03-09, 11:02

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Yeah, with that testing it sounds like the CPU though it is odd that it crashes right after the test no matter the speed the CPU is set to. If I were to take a guess, it crashes after Windows loads the desktop. The benchmark is full screen (at a different resolution) and then when it drops out to …

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Re: Nvidia Quadro4 750 XGL for Windows 98 SE gaming?

Posted on 2023-03-08, 21:27

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So, sometimes when a GPU is not working correctly but not fully bricked you can get a weird issue where the driver loads up and works under 2D but will report the card has zero 3D capabilities. This being said Furmark latest is OGL 2.0 and up only, IIRC 4Ti cards only support OGL 1.4. So Furmark …

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Re: Bad socket 370 CPU?

Posted on 2023-03-08, 15:55

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It was really just an idea I was putting forward. Can't You turn off the thermal protection in the bios, or is that for later architectures? Actually I bought a Socket 370 motherboard last year and it is highly unstable causing reboots, could be capacitors even though they all look perfect. The …

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Re: Bad socket 370 CPU?

Posted on 2023-03-08, 15:54

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It's not thermal runaway from what I can tell. I used an infrared measuring device on the heatsink and it showed roughly 30-35°C. When I touch it during a benchmark it feels around 35°C. This is also what the BIOS says. Here's the results of my tests with 3DMark 2001 SE (default benchmark): 1Ghz: it …

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Re: Nvidia Quadro4 750 XGL for Windows 98 SE gaming?

Posted on 2023-03-08, 14:05

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I don't remember Furmark being around Prior to the DirectX10 era (after 2006), so it was likely never intended to be run on something as old as the Geforce4\Quadro4 series with DX8.0\OpenGL 1.3 level features. The oldest reference I can find to Furmark online is a forum post about it back in 2007 …

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Re: Nvidia Quadro4 750 XGL for Windows 98 SE gaming?

Posted on 2023-03-08, 14:04

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I've been using Quadro980XGL (ti4600 on AGPx8 bus) in my P4 W98 rig with no problems whatsoever. All games and benchmarks running smoothly and without errors. That's good - I've been wanting a good 3D card again and they're pretty hard to find in working condition. They sure don't make 3D cards to …

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