Re: Can you help me build a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-11-08, 20:34

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Sadly I do not have a 775i65g, I missed my chance to buy brand new R3.0 while they were still being sold in stores for just 40 euros, surprisingly recently too. But what I do have is an AsRock Conroe865PE, as well as a DFI-ITOX G7S620-N. Both of these can also take a E5800 with a modded bios, and …

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Re: Can you help me build a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-11-08, 20:15

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You can't use an AGP version of Voodoo on your motherboard, they need an earlier 3.3V version of AGP and your board has newer 1.5V. You might be able to use a PCI version unless there's also some compatibility issues with the board, don't get one before someone confirms it's ok. It's ok, I have a …

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Re: Can you help me build a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-11-07, 22:37

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I've seen people run windows 98 on core i5s even. Granted with no official mobo drivers available its a bit harder to do, but certainly doable. When there's a will, there's a way. In fact I bet someone gonna figure out a way to make it work on alder lake

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Re: Can you help me build a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-11-07, 20:50

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Anyway I'm happy to have found those new old stock 2GB. But Now I need to find a 512MB one to install Windows 98. Actually you don't. Sure, having a 512mb stick may make things a bit more straightforward and easier, but theres ways to do it with 2 gigs installed too. You start the win98 install, …

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Re: Can you help me build a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-11-07, 07:45

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if the cpu is visually intact (no physical damage) theres really no reason why it shouldn't work. CPUs don't really die of overuse the way video cards tend to. You can find cpus that have been running overclocked and overvolted for 30 years now and still work fine. The only cpus I have found so far …

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Re: Can you help me build a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-11-01, 13:49

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WDC WD1000DHTZ-60N21V0 (931,5 GB) Current Temperature: 30 °C Average Temperature (today): 30,25 °C Maximum Temperature (today): 31 °C ...yeah, it's hot indeed :) Does have the heatsink tho... lets check the 36gb Raptor in my 2003 pc then, which has been on for a couple of hours now, as I'm currently …

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Re: Can you help me build a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-11-01, 12:57

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What's wrong with regular 3.5" 7200rpm HDDs anyways, I've been using those forever and I can't complain. Noise? Vibrations? Really now, in a decently built case (and silverstone does have good build quality) you cannot hear the HDD over the sound of the fans. Diskeeper's automatic defragmentation …

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Re: Can you help me build a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-11-01, 10:11

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by God Of Gaming

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I use diskeeper on all my PCs, it's made by the same people that made the windows built-in defrag but diskeeper is more advanced and also provides automatic defragmentation at all times with just about no performance impact, so you don't even need to run it manually

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Re: Can you help me build a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-10-31, 23:22

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I have yet to find a virtual machine software that can do windows 98 with 3d hardware video and audio acceleration. Win98 VM not so ultimate if it can only play games with software renderer and basic or no audio

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Re: Can you help me build a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-10-30, 22:00

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If you have both drives inserted and enabled while you install both OS-es, of course win98 first, when you install winXP after that it will pick up the win98 boot loader and replace it, and give you the boot menu where you pick which windows to load... Basically the same thing that happens with two …

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Re: Can you help me building a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-10-30, 16:36

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The E4700 doesn't run particularly hot, and you won't be overclocking it either, so no need for a super beefy cooler, in fact the stock intel box cooler should do fine

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Re: Can you help me building a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-10-29, 22:36

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That's a 2006 motherboard, which was replaced in 2012 with the newer r3.0 revision with black pcb and 45nm cpu support (E5800 best 800fsb cpu for r3.0). So his r2.0 mobo was produced somewhere between 2006 and 2012, but even if it was one of the very last r2.0s made, almost 10 years have passed, …

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Re: Can you help me building a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-10-29, 20:06

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by God Of Gaming

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If it's new old stock, everything should be fine. Just check if the coin-cell battery still has a charge, and replace it if it's discharged. Yeah, you can't really test anything till you install cpu and ram

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Re: Can you help me building a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-10-28, 19:16

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by God Of Gaming

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Indeed, I've had multiple cases of falling for that trick. Also 60€ is too much for a good condition one, let alone a non-working one. Keep in mind the 5900xt is a model below the regular 5900, with only 128mb ram vs 256mb, and lower clocks, but its still more than good enough for win98 gaming and …

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Re: Can you help me building a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-10-28, 10:46

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I'd go for the 9600xt out of those three, but.... 30€ again sounds a bit much, I got my 9600xt for like 5€... I suppose you'll do best to wait patiently, decent deals do show up occasionally, like an year ago I found a working msi fx5900 ultra for 10€... paying trough the nose for obsolete old …

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Re: Can you help me building a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-10-28, 10:15

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by God Of Gaming

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well, is win98 what matters most (in which case definitely go for the ti4200, fx5600 or fx5700, or maybe even wait patiently for a cheap 5900 that may show up eventually), or is winXP equally important, for which the 4000/5000 series are really not that good, in which case... 6200 is low end and …

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Re: Can you help me building a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-10-28, 09:27

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See what I mean? Ebay prices are crazy these days.. I wouldn't pay this much even for the 5800 ultra (which btw nowadays sells for over $2k). The future of the vintage PC hardware hobby is doomed

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Re: Can you help me building a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-10-27, 22:47

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God of gaming mentioned the Radeon 9800 as the sweet spot. You got it wrong, Radeon 9800 as well as X800/X850 are on the same level as nvidia 6000 series, all of those are cards with not ideal win98 game compatibility, but decent XP performance. I say not ideal win98 compatibility, but its not bad …

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Re: Can you help me building a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-10-27, 11:58

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What I like to do is use one smaller capacity, 10k or 15k rpm hdd, like a scsi seagate cheetah, or a sata wd raptor, and partition that for all the windowsi, and then add large capacity 5400rpm or 7200rpm HDDs for game installs, as many as the computer case can fit, since I'm not the type to only …

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Re: Can you help me building a Windows 98 SE gaming machine?

Posted on 2021-10-27, 10:29

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by God Of Gaming

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Thing is, specific vintage hardware that is "interesting", is nowadays very hard to get, and if ebay happens to be your only source of vintage hardware, you should prepare to sell your organs and your newborn child

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